Devilinurear
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Dr Manhattan is a rip off the captain atom. Nite Owl is blue bettle and roscahe? Is the question
People who don't understand the significance of Superman not killing!
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I'm legit embarrassed for you.
You've exposed yourself something horrible in this thread.
NobodyReally
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This is not a single event/plot point debate. This is the result of the cumulative. I don't think Superman killing Zod would have had nearly as much controversy if he had given even some regard or had some sort of struggle over the crazy destruction and loss of life he was inflicting just by fighting in the movie. It was his total disregard of the loss of human life throughout the film, on top of killing Zod, on top of his passive aggressive (and sneaky) pettiness towards a bullying trucker, on top of his father scolding him for saving a bus full of children, that made people go ask who the fukk is this?
These are essentially comic books at the end of the day, your gonna have to set realism aside.
Batman is basically the same as dr doom. And dr doom regularly sons super powered hero's using his knowledge, technology, and prep time.
It's funny that people always joke about batman and prep time, but consider Dr doom the best villain in comic books when they are basically have the same character concept.
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Devilinurear
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No the killing of Zod was not understood because many fans of superman and superheroes have a juvenile view of them and complain when you try to show them in a mature light that they ask for. That movie showed Superman as he is starting out and he did not have time to react or contemplate the morals of killing Zod. That Superman was in his early 20's facing at that point his greatest challenge against a warrior trained who was just as powerful as him and about to kill a little girl and her mom. An older more experienced would have found a different way for sure but this was a young superman and I think that movie showed that.
BelowTheMasonDixon
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I'm talking about "realistically" and the comic has shown it a FEW times. Don't act like Superman is known for bodying nikkas like that in the comics or not.
BelowTheMasonDixon
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What? Dr. Doom is like the smartest person on the planet and knows magic. He's nothing like Dr. Doom
I know, which is why I said Batman is more of a boyscout than Superman. The debate you quoted pertained to Batman.
Devilinurear
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Most superheroes don't go around killing people expect wolverine and Punisher. The main reason is because a good villain has to come back for story purposes. realistically someone would have killed joker for all the shyt he has done. Now why you don't have Superman killing people because of Truth JUSTICE and the American way is part of his tagline so killing enemies just because would go against that.
Devilinurear
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my bad
Yes he is which is weird. He goes around beating people to near death but killing them is to far for him?
Dr doom didn't automatically know magic.
He defeated the fantastic 4 many times with no magic at all.
He was outsmarting powerful beings with science.
Dr doom is essentially a very wealthy, genius. Literally the coolest part of him is the fact that he's human.
Batman and Dr doom have more similarities than differences
Batman going toe to toe with people like superman, is just as ridiculous as doom fighting silver surfer. If you can suspend your disbelief for Dr doom, then u can do the same for batman
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AnonymityX1000
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Aw, that sounds true and very believable. lolI'm legit embarrassed for you.
You've exposed yourself something horrible in this thread.
The scene was laughable (pretended as if "no killing" was ever a big point in the movie) , poorly acted and came after a tedious third act. That's why it got shytted on.
It was like that scene in Star Wars where Vader finds out he killed his wife and the screams "nooooooo" it's meant to be dramatic but the entire thing is
.not killing has nothing to do with what you're saying OP....superman is viewed as a threat and not trusted by many now despite not killing (like that) because of how powerful he is, so him killing (like that) wouldnt change that...the only thing it would change is the number of people saying out loud 'see, i told you, we couldnt trust him'...currently, while many think it, only a few say it....
anyway, the reason he doesnt kill (like that) is because that's his character...he stands for truth, justice, believes there is right & wrong (no grey), that no matter what evil people do they can ultimately change and be good, etc., which includes only killing when he deems it the last and only resort....he is the ultimate good guy/hero, what people wish they could be/live up to (i'm not talking about powers neither), and the standard all other heroes are measured against....
side note: that also explains why when the shift in society towards more 'edgy' shyt started happening, people started disliking him as a character....and started saying shyt like 'he's not realistic'....
anyway, the reason he doesnt kill (like that) is because that's his character...he stands for truth, justice, believes there is right & wrong (no grey), that no matter what evil people do they can ultimately change and be good, etc., which includes only killing when he deems it the last and only resort....he is the ultimate good guy/hero, what people wish they could be/live up to (i'm not talking about powers neither), and the standard all other heroes are measured against....
side note: that also explains why when the shift in society towards more 'edgy' shyt started happening, people started disliking him as a character....and started saying shyt like 'he's not realistic'....
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Devilinurear
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If you think so.The scene was laughable (pretended as if "no killing" was ever a big point in the movie) , poorly acted and came after a tedious third act. That's why it got shytted on.
It was like that scene in Star Wars where Vader finds out he killed his wife and the screams "nooooooo" it's meant to be dramatic but the entire thing is