People having kids before they acquire wealth is backwards thinking

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The government needs to give its citizens a monthly living wage at $2000 a month and raise the minimum wage to $22 a month.

Also, the government needs to put restrictions on how much rent a landlord can charge.

a few people been going on rent strikes, Toronto, DC and LA.
 

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No. That's not the cause of poverty.

And having kids when you're strong and young is reconnecting with nature.
Waiting to be rich or to acquire "wealth" to have kids is stupid.

Basically chasing wealth is a foolish dream that most won't attain. Now being able to afford children in a realistic manner is another thing. But saying I ain't having kids until I make my first million is as stupid as a dude saying I ain't getting married and having kids until I make it to the NBA, NFL, NHL and etc.
 
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This is one of the biggest issues in the black community I think. We need to change the culture around having kids while young, unmarried, and broke.
Someone in poverty having a child before they get education and get established professionally is one of the dumbest things you can do and yet it's so common in our community. For what ever reason poor people seem to really be against abortion from what I see. $500 once vs. $100,0000+ over 18 yrs and likely depending on the government. Imagine if someone put that on the table for you and you purposely lpicked the second option while making minimum wage :dead:
It’s an issue especially in the Hispanic community.
 

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The government needs to give its citizens a monthly living wage at $2000 a month and raise the minimum wage to $22 a month.

Also, the government needs to put restrictions on how much rent a landlord can charge.

This isn't going to magically turn people into great parents overnight, that raise productive citizens in society... this is only going to help companies and entrepreneurs by giving them a better group of consumers

It starts from young.

Putting money in people's pockets does not make them responsible & intelligent adults

Like I said earlier.... Knowledge, wisdom & principles are far greater than any Bag of Money.
 

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Let me guess. You're a socialist :troll:

actually I'm an anarchist, but I wouldn't have a problem with socialism that's practices more of direct-democracy aspect as oppose to simply relying on state issued resources.

it's funny yall bougie/uptight brehs complain about poverty, lack of education, rent increases, student loans, yet ya'll turn ya'll nose up at the idea of a model that would be beneficial to you

but most people wise to the game realize that the only reason you're against is because other people would also benefit. people ya'll some how decided don't "deserve it".
 

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My solutions have been stated repeatedly across the forum.
Just giving money for sub-standard living conditions, awful schools, and sloppily to cover the gap between insurance and healthcare costs, all while spending billions of dollars on "Drug Wars" that work to increase the impoverished population and the burden on the state will not solve the issue.
Better public education, the removal of charter schools, and federal funding for for-profit education, with increased teacher pressure an increase in pay, and training needs to be pushed, maternity leave for all workers in the United States for a minimum of 6 months, raising of the minimum wage, removal of project sections, and the integration of mixed-income housing, ending of property value determinance of school funding, free 2 year state college funding, increasing funding to HBCUs and Institutes of Technology, the legalization of marijuana and post-prison employment programmes, federally mandated sex education courses in all high schools, and a few other things would massively reduce poverty, particularly for people of colour, help to reduce the state-burden, and probably drop the abortion rate which I'm sure would excite social conservatives.
These are mostly great ideas.

But they don't change the fact that having a kid in a weak financial position almost guarantees worse outcomes for them in life. Even if all your suggestions and programs would be implemented, that wouldn't change that. I'm not even sure why stating this fact is so controversial.
 
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Having children comes with extreme responsibility and financial sacrifice
It is easier to become wealthy being a broke college student or young professional who are childless, then it is when you have kids AND broke :mindblown:. To me that is the number 1 reason for poverty in America

This is why I don't believe in making the minimum wage higher, no way should everyone pay for some people's bad decisions


absolutely abysmal logic....

you can be single and still need to live and eat...
 

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actually I'm an anarchist, but I wouldn't have a problem with socialism that's practices more of direct-democracy aspect as oppose to simply relying on state issued resources.

it's funny yall bougie/uptight brehs complain about poverty, lack of education, rent increases, student loans, yet ya'll turn ya'll nose up at the idea of a model that would be beneficial to you

but most people wise to the game realize that the only reason you're against is because other people would also benefit. people ya'll some how decided don't "deserve it".
I haven't decided anyone does or doesn't deserve anything

I'm just speaking to what works and what doesn't. :yeshrug:

I'd gladly pay more taxes for higher quality schools and programs that actually work at breaking the chain of poverty. I'd love to get big money out of govt and have actual representation again. You're assuming a LOT, simply because I've vocally agreed with the idea that having children from a weak financial position yields negative outcomes :snoop:
 

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I haven't decided anyone does or doesn't deserve anything

I'm just speaking to what works and what doesn't. :yeshrug:

I'd gladly pay more taxes for higher quality schools and programs that actually work at breaking the chain of poverty. I'd love to get big money out of govt and have actual representation again. You're assuming a LOT, simply because I've vocally agreed with the idea that having children from a weak financial position yields negative outcomes :snoop:

you been crying nonstop because people neg/name call and disagree with your opinion fam. chill the fukk out.

ya'll are only looking at one angle of the problems with economic inequality in this country.
 
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This isn't going to magically turn people into great parents overnight, that raise productive citizens in society... this is only going to help companies and entrepreneurs by giving them a better group of consumers

It starts from young.

Putting money in people's pockets does not make them responsible & intelligent adults

Like I said earlier.... Knowledge, wisdom & principles are far greater than any Bag of Money.
How do you know these people aren't great parents? There are loads of single moms working two low paying minimum wage jobs barely providing for their kids. A monthly living wage + $22 an hour will free them from most struggle. You temporarily embarrassed millionaires are something else.
 
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How do you know these people aren't great parents? There are loads of single moms working two low paying minimum wage jobs to barely providing for their kids. A monthly living wage + $22 an hour will free them from most struggling. You temporarily embarrassed millionaires are something else.

he's a trust fund kid, he don't know the struggle of us common folk
 

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How do you know these people aren't great parents? There are loads of single moms working two low paying minimum wage jobs barely providing for their kids. A monthly living wage + $22 an hour will free them from most struggling. You temporarily embarrassed millionaires are something else.

How can you be intelligent & responsible and bring an innocent life into poverty and struggle? .

fukk outta here my guy.....

My parents had me before they were ready.... and I had to be raised by my grandmother for the majority of my childhood.

But things shouldn't be that way.

Chad and Brad being born into resources and opportunities and you ain't going to try to build something up for your child before they get here? Man.... most children are destined for failure as soon as they take their first breath and it's not even their fault
 
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