Patrick Mahomes haters punching air right now -- EDIT Tom Brady stans in shambles 😂😂

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So Tom Brady just won alot?? Youre a hypocrite of the highest order. Mahomes just QBed the 15th ranked scoring offense, two years in a row, yet thats enough to make him the GOAT? So
Making two AllDecade teams, isnt dominating?
First QB to throw 50 tds in a season?
First unanimous MVP?
5 times led the league in passing touchdowns?
4 times led the league in passing yardage?
Done in 3 different decades?
Most pts scored in a 3 year stretch(2010-2012)?
Best advanced metrics along w Manning, ever!?
Best td to int ratio in a single season
Won MVP without a 1000 yard WR or TE(2010)
I know you hate Brady, but you dont have to be disingenuous.
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Point wasn't that Peyton is better than Tom (He's not). Like you said, people like to ignore the failures you pointed to.

:beli: defense vs Indy Peyton kept him in check until 2006. Only 2 of his playoff Ls came to Brady. No excuses for the rest. He consistently came up short in the playoffs.
Early on you can get on Peyton for some of them (mostly 2003 and 2004), but post 2006 I can’t really think of one except 2009.

2007: upstanding man from Philadelphia has a fumble in chargers territory, Reggie Wayne juggles a pass into the hands of Antonio Cromartie in field goal range right before halftime, the defense lets Billy Volek drive the length of the field for the go ahead score in the final minutes with rivers, gates, and LT all hurt. Then the receivers drop passes on 3rd and 4th down beyond the sticks to lose the game.

2008: 8 of the colts 10 drives start inside the 20 and I think 5 start inside the 10 while the colts can’t run the ball either. They have the lead late but Jacob Tamme forgets the snap count and misses his block so Shaun Phillips gets a 3rd down sack when a 1st would’ve won the game so the colts have to punt. The defense folds in regulation and gives up the winning score on the first drive in overtime.

2009: Peyton did throw the pick to Tracy Porter, but there was a clear block in the back (on Peyton of all people) that should’ve wiped out the score. Then Reggie Wayne dropped a touchdown on 4th to end the game when if they recovered the kick they’d have had a shot at the tie. Minor note but Pierre Garçon dropping a 50 yard gain cost them the momentum.

2010: Slow paced & as a result low scoring game but Peyton gets them the lead with less than a minute left. Then the kick coverage unit gives up a big return and lets the jets drive for the winning field goal at the buzzer.

2012: Brandon Stokley juggles a pass into Corey Graham’s hands for a pick 6, Matt Prater botches a field goal right before halftime which gives the ravens a short field they turn into a touchdown, and Rahim Moore blows the coverage on a Hail Mary with the game on the line. It should’ve been 31-14 Denver after the 2nd half kickoff.

2013: Their offensive line was missing I think 3 starters, the line was horrible, the receivers played bad and scared after Kam lit up Thomas (RIP) the backs were bad, and the defense & special teams unit gave up 36 points to a team with a historically great defense. No quarterback could’ve won that game for Denver that night. All of Denver’s struggles that game originated elsewhere.

2014: He had a torn quad so he couldn’t really throw the ball. Tore his quad in early December against the raiders and looked bad the final month of the season. We just didn’t realize he was officially :flabbynsick: until the next year.
 

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Brady in 07 and 16 was dominant. There might be a few more years he was. But those two stand out
Brady had identical numbers to Rodgers and Peyton from 2010 to 2020. Like I don’t know what people are talking about. Mahomes’ SB performances would only rank better than Brady’s first one.
 

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I, for one, welcome our new space overlords.
And nobody in history won 7 rings or was dominating at 40-something years old.

It's easier to go to 3 Super Bowls than it is to win 7 rings.

For Mahomes to match that, he would have to still be dominating to damn near 2040.
Analogies like these never make sense. You don't need to replicate the exact pathway another goat took in order to surpass them. Everyone has their own story and situations to face.

MJ never won 11 titles like Bill Russell did, but he still surpassed him according to a majority of people. Mahomes doesn't need to play until 2040 to surpass Brady.
 

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Brady had identical numbers to Rodgers and Peyton from 2010 to 2020. Like I don’t know what people are talking about. Mahomes’ SB performances would only rank better than Brady’s first one.
:dahell: he didn’t do anything spectacular in Super Bowl 39 either and he wasn’t great in 42 or 46. His box score numbers in 49 are great, but half his passing yards were after the catch because Seattle did a horrible job tackling that night. He didn’t do much of anything in Super Bowl 51 vs the rams either and he didn’t really have to do anything vs Kansas City either since he got a lot of short fields, had a clean pocket all game, and Tampa only gave up 9 points. He finished that game with 70 passing yards through the air and just 201 yards total.


Super Bowl 38 and 52 are incredible games by him though :ehh:
 

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:dahell: he didn’t do anything spectacular in Super Bowl 39 either and he wasn’t particularly good in 42 or 46. His box score numbers in 49 are great, but half his passing yards were after the catch. He didn’t do much of anything in Super Bowl 51 vs the rams either and he didn’t really have to do anything vs Kansas City either since he got a lot of short fields, had a clean pocket all game, and Tampa only gave up 9 points. He finished that game with 70 passing yards through the air and just 201 yards total.


Super Bowl 38 and 52 are incredible games by him though :ehh:
You sound utterly ridiculous. This Nîgga said after the catch yards when we just saw Mahomes clinch an AFC title game with a basic dump off. That’s the problem with you guys, you don’t understand the sports you’re watching and you rate it based on eye catching plays. How old are you actually because the shyt you just said would get you kicked out of most football rooms. Ed Reed would spit at you.

What you just said about Brady applies to every Mahomes SB.
 

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You sound utterly ridiculous. This Nîgga said after the catch yards when we just saw Mahomes clinch an AFC title game with a basic dump off. That’s the problem with you guys, you don’t understand the sports you’re watching and you rate it based on eye catching plays. How old are you actually because the shyt you just said would get you kicked out of most football rooms. Ed Reed would spit at you.

What you just said about Brady applies to every Mahomes SB.
Regardless of what his name is, I’m not giving a quarterback much credit for a game where 65% of his just 201 passing yards came after the catch, where he was pressured just 4 times all game, and where his defense gave up 9 points :comeon:
 

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Analogies like these never make sense. You don't need to replicate the exact pathway another goat took in order to surpass them. Everyone has their own story and situations to face.

MJ never won 11 titles like Bill Russell did, but he still surpassed him according to a majority of people. Mahomes doesn't need to play until 2040 to surpass Brady.

Yes you do. Less than a few years ago, we refused to acknowledge Brady was better than Montana unless he got four rings. Then he did. Now y’all wanna switch shyt up for Mahomes because y’all know he can’t win 7 times.
 

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Mahomes has had the best START out of any QB's named in this thread


If he stays on the same trajectory he will be the undisputed GOAT

A 4-peat would do i

Or

Catching up to Brady in a fraction of the time would do it

That's it.


All the other discourse happening in this thread is a handful of hooked on phonics nikkas moving goalposts all over the place
 

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Brady had identical numbers to Rodgers and Peyton from 2010 to 2020. Like I don’t know what people are talking about. Mahomes’ SB performances would only rank better than Brady’s first one.

And Mahomes first Super Bowl win was super trash. He played terrible the majority of the game until Tyreke broke that long catch in the third quarter iirc.
 
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