Pastor uses church money to buy Gucci, Versace, Louis Vuitton, ranger rover, houses and vacations

[Brosef]

not a christian but there's no way this scumbag is representative of the majority of preachers. most of them seem to actually live humble lives

 

[the cac mamba]

The bible is full of parables.

I went to a private christian school from first to 8thgrade. Bible studies was a graded class/subject. I know what is in the bible.

Go back and read my post, then go read the bible, after that, I will speak to you about it. It's clear that you don't know what is inside of it, yet you're in here talking shXt about it.
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well then you christians have to make up your mind on whether its the literal word of god, or parables. there seems to be some confusion among you

"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

like... is this a 'parable'? or not

 

[YaThreadFloppedB!]

and folks are really in here downplaying the abilities of an omnipresent being as a form of defense and still don't see how they have been duped. Big ass Catch 22 large as life. I gotta give it to @Giselle and posters like her. They are consistent with their aversion to logic. Next, tell me how it's OK to show favor to some folks while letting others get messed clean over. More free will? Some pray harder than others? Gave more tithes more often? When do the variables cease?

ETHER

 

[Dameon Farrow]

ETHER

IJS free will is the biggest cop out ever. You only hear free will on negative shyt though. Let somebody get a raise at work. It wasn't their time with the company. It wasn't their hard work. In other words, it wasn't free will. It was the grace of God. It was favor shown. Meanwhile the kat next to you with the same work ethic can't get that raise because they can only afford to give it to one person and you are it. Kat next to you didn't attend church last Sunday and you did. That must be it! shyt is mind blowing. I see folks screaming about favor and I'm sitting here like....don't they realize the image they are painting?

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

You think white pastors dont spend money gucci, versace, LV, RR, house and vacation?

A black pastor of large church is to be poor?

who is anyone asking a pastor, his spending habit in a black church?

 

[GunRanger]

he cant even lie properly. Never seen someone so timid, and clearly guilty. The prosecutor is one step away from yelling "say it with your chest nikka"

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Nah bro, you be surprised how many black Catholics are here in NYC.

It's not surprising at all. Catholic schools are/were the best academic schools in ny since the 19th century.

 

[lotteryplaya]

Is it me or black people the only overtly religious people left? Very rarely do I see whites really proclaiming their undying love for God and even with them you sense they don't really believe it and are just using it for a purpose.

Black people genuinely believe in this God shyt. I'm friends with a lot of Africans on Facebook and everyday it's God this God that . Like for once surely someone will ask why the most religious continent is still poor as fukk while other continents who don't believe in that shyt keep prospering? Why does God bless those who don't believe in him whilst punishing those who worship him 24/7

Oh well fukk it. I don't really think I'll understand human behaviour nor do I care to.

Joel Osteen's church rakes in more money than Creflo or TD Jakes but he doesn't get the negative press. The only negative press I remember Joel getting was some comments against gay marriage. Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen aren't the names the media brings up when talking prosperity ministries.

 

[lotteryplaya]

Catholic church money goes back to the community, though the archdioceses shyt on black churches compared to white in my opinion. Black churches will be shuttered or consolidated quicker than white ones. But that may be unfair perception.

The priests and nuns take vows of poverty, though. There is no rolling up in status symbols or living large in mcmansions or wearing designer shyt that I've seen. Having a visible hierarchy helps? Cuz there is none for Protestants. Not like Catholic.

I have noticed the charity work of Catholic churches and other denominations but some of that money has to get back the Vatican. "Bankers' best guesses about the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion."

 

[Soon]

well then you christians have to make up your mind on whether its the literal word of god, or parables. there seems to be some confusion among you

"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

like... is this a 'parable'? or not

First, parables and sayings exist in the Bible. But the Bible is largely historical.

Second, some Christians take historical events and historical people and call their existence/actions parables and allegories which is not always true. David did slay Goliath. Jonas did exist, but I doubt he was in a whale, (God overcomes the physical but God doesn't change the rules of nature)

Creation story comes from Mesoptamia, and Abraham crossed the Sinai Peninsula into Africa and brought the story with him.

Point to any passage in the Bible and we can debate the finer points.

@Chez Lopez

 

[dynamik]

There is NO accountability within today's Christianity. Either on the Part of God or the Christian.

Something horrible happens to an innocent person/group of people... It was Gods will.

A "Christian" does something shîtty... Don't judge them, because God knows their heart.

A pastor tricks off the tithe, offering and building fund... "Once I pay my tithe, it doesn't matter to me where the money goes. I did my part"

Shît is undeniably transparent in this day and age.

 

[Anti-Anime]

We need a dedicated faith/spirituality subforum so all these magic and sorcery believers can post their bullshyt in there

 

[Soon]

We need a dedicated faith/spirituality subforum so all these magic and sorcery believers can post their bullshyt in there

You know what's funny more anti-religious threads pop up than anything. Even this thread is antireligious. Atheist think about religion more than believers.

 

[BlaKcMoney]

well then you christians have to make up your mind on whether its the literal word of god, or parables. there seems to be some confusion among you

"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

like... is this a 'parable'? or not

being a "christian" is about repenting from immorality, loving your neighbors as yourself, blessing those who harm you, praying for you enemies, putting away all malice, not returning evil with evil, being honest, not committing adultery, not committing murder, giving to those in need and being a living example to those around you.

 

[BlaKcMoney]

There is NO accountability within today's Christianity. Either on the Part of God or the Christian.

Something horrible happens to an innocent person/group of people... It was Gods will.

A "Christian" does something shîtty... Don't judge them, because God knows their heart.

A pastor tricks off the tithe, offering and building fund... "Once I pay my tithe, it doesn't matter to me where the money goes. I did my part"

Shît is undeniably transparent in this day and age.

Its a reflection of america as a whole. People vote for politicians that we know are corrupt, People send their children to schools to learn false histories, People go to doctors who make commissions off pushing toxic "treatments" like radiation and pharmakeia, People go to mcdonalds instead of the local butcher, People follow the rappers who glorify materialism instead of those who rebuke oppression, People desire to have or be a bad bytch instead of a virtuous woman.

Why? There are no moral standards in America. Popular opinion determines peoples moral views now, if something is on enough tv shows and supported by enough "important" or "credentialed" peoples then the masses become brainwashed. Guess what Obama and all the other politicians in DC have been raping everyone's pockets in this country, yet millions will be lined up to vote more corrupt officials into office. So lets open our perspective up because this is bigger than the church, this is about american society as a whole.