OutKast v Tribe Called Quest Verzuz Coming Soon?!

[Tribal Outkast]

Beats, Rhymes, & Life is still a good album and it aged well. But it will probably never get love like that.

It’s a good album and I don’t think any other song would get played other than 1nce again and Stressed Out

 

[Mike the Executioner]

It’s a good album and I don’t think any other song would get played other than 1nce again and Stressed Out

That's a shame because there are other great songs on this album.

Phony Rappers
Get a Hold
Motivators
The Pressure
Mind Power
The Hop (has one of Phife's best verses)
Keeping It Moving
Baby Phife's Return
What Really Goes On
Word Play

 

[Woodrow]

Not at all. In a Versuz setting Kast ain’t got nothing that would get a bigger reaction than Scenario

If you honestly believe that, nothing I say is gonna change your mind. Because I don’t know how anyone could possibly say that objectively.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

If you honestly believe that, nothing I say is gonna change your mind. Because I don’t know how anyone could possibly say that objectively.

I can’t think of one OutKast song that had the same cultural impact as Scenario except for maybe Ms Jackson

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Bone has bigger hits than any group here named EXCEPT Outkast, ironically and I agree if we are only talking group albums Wu would lose to Outkast and probably Tribe as well. But If you add the solo albums it gets more competitive but even then I think Outkast is gonna win.


Folks don't seem to understand that Outkast IS the greatest duo/group in Hiphop history and they are the most popular and well liked.

theyre really not as popular as youre pushing.

they did alot of stat-padding and crossing over.

theyre not as popular as a Bone or a Wu.
and hip-hop wise, theyre really not any more popular than a group like tribe.

This is the most out of touch thread I’ve seen on the coli

Outkast went fukking diamond and nikkas are talking like they’re in a class with 8 ball and mjg

this is a versus battle. Not your basement.

According to y’all, Gucci and Jeezy are too far apart and bone vs 3 6 mafia is too far

But this is somehow an even battle, let alone saying outlast will be washed? Scott storch won off damn pop and rnb

they never REALLY went diamond. they really sold 5-mil on a cheaply-priced double disc.
nelly went LEGIT diamond, and he did it twice. yet, people say he lost to ludacris. so i dont see why youre reacting like this over outkast.

i do agree that 8ball & mjg cant hang with outkast, nor a ton of other groups in a verzus battle.

but i dont understand why youre trying to compare the tribe to 3-6 & gucci mane.

If you honestly believe that, nothing I say is gonna change your mind. Because I don’t know how anyone could possibly say that objectively.

i dont think you understand how highly "scenario" is regarded.

i personally think its slightly overrated, but thats besides the point.

Where he say that?

i forgot.

it was obvious anyway.

first time i saw outkast with laface records at the bottom of the screen, i was like "oh, they went and got their own arrested development".

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

How do you look at this and say it reminds you of Arrested Developed?


I’m confused. I agree with you btw

you gotta be in tune with black music listeners outside of just the rippity-rap bubble.
it also helps if you were in tune in real-time.

you dont see how those records have similar vibes??
you dont think people who grew up on say a group like sly & the family stone, would be a fan of all four of those records??
you telling me, you cant keep the same vibe going to "tennessee" after bumpin the "players ball" remix? or "everyday people" played back-to-back with "git up, get out"??

i mean, you can just look at alot of the fans of arrested, and you can tell that they like outkast too, or vice-versa if said fans were around long enough.

outkast fans love to go back and act like andre's acceptance speech at the source awards was monumental. but nobody ever noticed that andre was dressed like mr wendell??

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I never argued that they didn't.

yes you did, you little fakkit.

heres the quote:

Breh, regardless of how it is taken, it is a giant reach. You are trying to paint this picture of Kast as a group that connects with fans who don't listen to Hip Hop and are using Arrested to push that argument.

you said that chit. thats why buddy responded to you the way he did.
you throw so much chit at the wall, you dont even know what you be typing.

also, i never said that arrested development fans didnt listen to hip-hop.

that correlation is something i would say about the later outkast stuff when they were selling the most records of their career.

The back pack crowd never had sales to begin with. Arrested Development was an anomaly and they basically were more of a Southern version of ATCQ than Kast was.

the bolded didnt make any sense the last time you said it.

and it looks even sillier now, seeing how youre completly contradicting what youre saying in the un-bolded sentence before it.

just admit that you really dont know what youre talking about and fallback already.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

you gotta be in tune with black music listeners outside of just the rippity-rap bubble.
it also helps if you were in tune in real-time.

you dont see how those records have similar vibes??
you dont think people who grew up on say a group like sly & the family stone, would be a fan of all four of those records??
you telling me, you cant keep the same vibe going to "tennessee" after bumpin the "players ball" remix? or "everyday people" played back-to-back with "git up, get out"??

i mean, you can just look at alot of the fans of arrested, and you can tell that they like outkast too, or vice-versa if said fans were around long enough.

I dint understand why people are so up in arms about Arrested Development being brought up in this thread. Both them and Kast are the babies of Native Tongues. If you liked both groups there’s a strong chance Tribe was one of your favorite groups. That’s why I said people are underestimating Tribe big time becuz their influence was bigger than most groups in hip hop history. People forget there was a sub genre in hip hop at the time called alternative and Tribe was the poster child. Every group from Kast to Arrested Development to Digable Planets to the Roots to the Pharcyde to the Fugees fell under that umbrella. You can even still hear that influence today when you hear Kendrick, Cole and even Drake to an extent

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I dint understand why people are so up in arms about Arrested Development being brought up in this thread. Both them and Kast are the babies of Native Tongues. If you liked both groups there’s a strong chance Tribe was one of your favorite groups. That’s why I said people are underestimating Tribe big time becuz their influence was bigger than most groups in hip hop history. People forget there was a sub genre in hip hop at the time called alternative and Tribe was the poster child. Every group from Kast to Arrested Development to Digable Planets to the Roots to the Pharcyde to the Fugees fell under that umbrella. You can even still hear that influence today when you hear Kendrick, Cole and even Drake to an extent

THIS
add PM Dawn to that list as well.

theyre all alternative rappers.
and groups like arrested & outkast went further into the funk/soul/contemporary r&b realms with it.

some of these guys just werent around. some were around but are stuck in a rippity-rap land.

plus theres a stigma attached to arrested development, so outkast fans automatically want no parts of that; especially considering how they try so hard to pad outkast's legacy.

@JustCKing in here looking like he bout to commit that.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

THIS
add PM Dawn to that list as well.

theyre all alternative rappers.
and groups like arrested & outkast went further into the funk/soul/contemporary r&b realms with it.

some of these guys just werent around. some were around but are stuck in a rippity-rap land.

plus theres a stigma attached to arrested development, so outkast fans automatically want no parts of that; especially considering how they try so hard to pad outkast's legacy.

@JustCKing in here looking like he bout to commit that.

I like all those groups. I just don’t think Kast was like AD. It’s funny that you brought up PM Dawn..I was listen to a random PM Dawn playlist like last week.. They might have more influence than people give them credit for.. They got clowned back then though so it’ll be hard to get people to admit it lol.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I like all those groups. I just don’t think Kast was like AD. It’s funny that you brought up PM Dawn..I was listen to a random PM Dawn playlist like last week.. They might have more influence than people give them credit for.. They got clowned back then though so it’ll be hard to get people to admit it lol.

I don’t think he’s saying Kast is like AD but they both fell under that alternative hip hop umbrella. If you liked AD you prolly really liked Kast. Unless you weren’t really a hip hop fan like my mother and AD appealed to you for different reasons

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

I like all those groups. I just don’t think Kast was like AD. It’s funny that you brought up PM Dawn..I was listen to a random PM Dawn playlist like last week.. They might have more influence than people give them credit for.. They got clowned back then though so it’ll be hard to get people to admit it lol.

@ the bolded: in what way??
im not saying theyre a carbon copy but i dont see how people cant see how they share ALOT of the same fans.
im not talking from a rap perspective. im talking from a musical perspective.

yea, PM Dawn is another group that doesnt get their credit because of the stigma attached.

I don’t think he’s saying Kast is like AD but they both fell under that alternative hip hop umbrella. If you liked AD you prolly really liked Kast. Unless you weren’t really a hip hop fan like my mother and AD appealed to you for different reasons

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similar vibes
similar presentation alot of the time as well.
same city too.
sly stone all in both groups's DNA heavy.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

THIS
add PM Dawn to that list as well.

theyre all alternative rappers.
and groups like arrested & outkast went further into the funk/soul/contemporary r&b realms with it.

some of these guys just werent around. some were around but are stuck in a rippity-rap land.

plus theres a stigma attached to arrested development, so outkast fans automatically want no parts of that; especially considering how they try so hard to pad outkast's legacy.

@JustCKing in here looking like he bout to commit that.

They definitely had a stigma. The same stigma that PM Dawn had tbh. Groups like De La and Tribe never came off as soft but AD and PM Dawn did which was looked down on in that era especially

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I don’t think he’s saying Kast is like AD but they both fell under that alternative hip hop umbrella. If you liked AD you prolly really liked Kast. Unless you weren’t really a hip hop fan like my mother and AD appealed to you for different reasons

I mean I followed Kast from the beginning. Saw them live before they blew up. They didn’t really get “alternative” to me until Atliens.. I’m cool with putting them in that umbrella if you want though. Looking at Tribes history though, 3000 was always 3000 but he couldn’t come into the game like that so he just eased into it.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

They definitely had a stigma. The same stigma that PM Dawn had tbh. Groups like De La and Tribe never came off as soft but AD and PM Dawn did which was looked down on in that era especially

ehh
i remember tribe had their detractors for being too soft early on.

not on the level as PM Dawn tho.
plus tribe was str8 hip-hop, new york, zulu nation, etc
they also cut down on the extra-soft presentation after the 1st album.