"Outkast is bigger and better than Run DMC" - Big Gipp

[big bun]

Prodigy's solo albums >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The midget with sickle cell? Ok.

 

[pointproven214]

The midget with sickle cell? Ok.

i love the coli lmaoooo.

 

[JustCKing]

Out of the 5.5 million, what do you think the split would have been if the albums were available for individual purchase?

I don't know. It would've been interesting. "The Way You Move" was huge. That song was also #1. They would've been competing against each other as "Hey Ya" and "The Way You Move" replaced each other at the top of the charts.

 

[Art Barr]

In regards to draw and the verbiage of his comments.
yes, outcast given the climate and sales receipts had a much larger sales footprint than run dmc.
past that,...
kast never rhymed on run or DMc level, ever.
plus, from there own admission were biting of souls of mischief, originally.
that got over more because they were pimp influenced content and image wise.
past that, and being the sales darlings of LA face and arista.
I don't view outkast anywhere near a discussion of run dmc.
outlast could have never and will never do what run dmc did culturally just for starters.
without run dmc there is no permeation for outkast to draw, period.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Could you please post some early songs of OutKast sounding like Arrested Development rapping like Souls of Mischief and making music to pull the back packs?

I mean, besides that TLC song.

I been disclosed they bit souls of mischief on southernplay.
that years later in interview like prophecy outkast admitted.

Also, neo soul did capitalize off of the arrested development wave.
the same neo soul wave kast piggy backed off of Erykah badu.
If Erykah was on arista from jump with a wack contract.
Erykah would have gone diamond on multiple occasions before kast.
kast, benefitted from erykah's impact and badu ism before it was an album title.
that no other non kedar act was able to siphon off of till Jill scott.
Kast benefitted from being the safest group.
when, the prison economy system gave us our victory lap.
signaled by the dre lifetime acheivement at the grammies.
then, the kast album of the year win at the grammies.
plus, being smart enough on a double album to attack the middle aged and older genres of black and white ameRica with a doo wop soda shop song in hey ya.
plus, a Tom Joyner age bracket staple in the way you move.
predated by a triphop/edm based submission before it was termed edm.
which was a hodgepodge of eclectic edm mixed with shuggie Otis who raps.
yet and still they moved away and leaned on the formula of other receipt proved genres.
with a credible connection to badu to do so.
the same badu who did get to connect to the imagery.
or wtf is that, style of arrested developmentioned mixed with wu tang style covert content meets rnb.




Art Barr

 

[Rapmastermind]

In regards to draw and the verbiage of his comments.
yes, outcast given the climate and sales receipts had a much larger sales footprint than run dmc.
past that,...
kast never rhymed on run or DMc level, ever.
plus, from there own admission were biting of souls of mischief, originally.
that got over more because they were pimp influenced content and image wise.
past that, and being the sales darlings of LA face and arista.
I don't view outlast anowhere near a discussion of run dmc.
outlast could have never and will never do what run dmc did culturally just for starters.
without run dmc there is no permeation for outkast to draw, period.


Art Barr

Outkast has sold about 30 Million Worldwide. Run DMC has sold 20 Million. Considering when Run DMC came out, I think there sales are more impressive than Outkast. If you take there first three albums. Run DMC actually outsold Outkast. Outkast sales blew when all the hispters discovered them during "Stankonia". Sure they went Plat during there 1st three albums but they weren't "MEGA" sellers until there 4th LP. The biggest reason Outkast impact is so important is nobody from the South moved the units they did so you have to give them credit for putting ATL on the map the way they did. I just don't feel they shifted the culture the way Run DMC did. But you made some great points Art.

 

[Art Barr]

Gotcha. But I'm still gonna disagree with you lol

Tame WAS a beast in them days but I can't put him above Andre man. Tame had lyrical skills but Dre had skill as well as substance. The imagery of his environment in stories and introspection of his verses are something that can still be admired to this day.

Yeah, bUT I still spin tHe remix to c'mon with the get down.
way more than any outkast sonG or album ever made.
to this day at that time,...
dre was not making a verse as good as tame's on that record to save face with Busta kicking arguably the goat different voice verse in rap history.
I admit dre and big boi ramped up.
yet, that was after they leaned on the skillets of others in multiple eras and sonic landscapes.
tame never leaned on anyone skillet like dre and big boi had to do to get better.
plus, I don't ever see dre hanging with redman like clockwork the way tame easily does as well.

Art Barr


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

aquemini is an all time classic LP
i said they went commerical in late 90s (my bad) i meant early 00s

and i stand by my statement
the hiphop head is taken mobb over kast

Kast was commercial prison economy style commercial since they debuted.
they just siphoned the draw of newly minted genre's.
or, appeased strictly rnb style Playlist disc jockey based radio stations like v103.
trying to switch formats after hating on rap, previously.

Art Barr

 

[Blackout]

I'd say Outkast is better but RUN DMC is still bigger.

 

[Art Barr]

I have never heard Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik and ONCE thought "these dudes remind me of Souls of Mischief"... and I sure as hell never entertained them having ANYTHING in common with Arrested Development other than being from Atlanta.

And yeah, gotta agree with spliz here... that Arrested Development shyt was wack breh. Ain't nobody eatin' off their plate at all, unless you're talkin' about groups that come out with a cool single but almost immediately turn out to be corny and very much contrived, and then ultimately self-destruct by their second album because there's only so long a gimmick like that can last.

Dawg, it was widely known kast were the pimp content version of souls.
to the point kast self admitted they were on souls dikk, hardcore.
that is a fact.
that kast admitted and I wanna say that interview is a linkable thread here, too.
I been said and had that prophecy realized.




Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

I'd say Outkast is better but RUN DMC is still bigger.

What kast record for starters am I gonna bump over Darryl and joe.
which is pretty much,...
what All southern trap rap is sonically, in essence.
before southern trap, had a name to be in a genre.
then, after that...
what record does kast have seeing king of rock,.....
they don't have no verse, or record on the level of that shyt just for starters.
if I asked the fatboys to rap a kast verse.
it would never hit.
like when, the fatboys did king of rock on the Ave in Krush groove.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Is it 2001 or something? Outkast themselves don't even associate with each other anymore

Kast has had social issues since 94 and murder dog was writing about them being a group divided.


Art Barr

 

[Wacky D]

Outkast has sold about 30 Million Worldwide. Run DMC has sold 20 Million. Considering when Run DMC came out, I think there sales are more impressive than Outkast. If you take there first three albums. Run DMC actually outsold Outkast. Outkast sales blew when all the hispters discovered them during "Stankonia". Sure they went Plat during there 1st three albums but they weren't "MEGA" sellers until there 4th LP. The biggest reason Outkast impact is so important is nobody from the South moved the units they did so you have to give them credit for putting ATL on the map the way they did. I just don't feel they shifted the culture the way Run DMC did. But you made some great points Art.

i was saying most of what youre cosigning for like 4 pages, and i aint get no dap from you or nothing. you dudes and your favoritism. SMH. im almost done with this f*ck ass board. chit is gay.

master p was the 1st mega-seller out the south. you know the guy thats responisble for blowing the south up? and he didnt have to pander to white folks to do it. in fact, he chitted on them all the way to the bank. people stay trying to credit kast for stuff that they never did. and then they have the nerve to wonder why i stay chittin on them.

I been disclosed they bit souls of mischief on southernplay.
that years later in interview like prophecy outkast admitted.

Also, neo soul did capitalize off of the arrested development wave.
the same neo soul wave kast piggy backed off of Erykah badu.
If Erykah was on arista from jump with a wack contract.
Erykah would have gone diamond on multiple occasions before kast.
kast, benefitted from erykah's impact and badu ism before it was an album title.
that no other non kedar act was able to siphon off of till Jill scott.
Kast benefitted from being the safest group.
when, the prison economy system gave us our victory lap.
signaled by the dre lifetime acheivement at the grammies.
then, the kast album of the year win at the grammies.
plus, being smart enough on a double album to attack the middle aged and older genres of black and white ameRica with a doo wop soda shop song in hey ya.
plus, a Tom Joyner age bracket staple in the way you move.
predated by a triphop/edm based submission before it was termed edm.
which was a hodgepodge of eclectic edm mixed with shuggie Otis who raps.
yet and still they moved away and leaned on the formula of other receipt proved genres.
with a credible connection to badu to do so.
the same badu who did get to connect to the imagery.
or wtf is that, style of arrested developmentioned mixed with wu tang style covert content meets rnb.

Art Barr

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

broke it down the best. post of the year.

 

[Taadow]

Outkast sales blew when all the hispters discovered them during "Stankonia". Sure they went Plat during there 1st three albums but they weren't "MEGA" sellers until there 4th LP. The biggest reason Outkast impact is so important is nobody from the South moved the units they did so you have to give them credit for putting ATL on the map the way they did.

This is true.

...and it's the reason I can understand Gipp's point.

 

[toomanydoses]

I grew up in the south and was born in the late 80s. Outkast played a bigger role in my life/memories than Run DMC. That said to say they're better? That's going to far, they created a lot of the culture and paved the way. Just cause you like a group more doesn't make them better.