There is a difference between the monosphere and the Black manosphere.yeah the monosphere does have some legitimate talking points about men's loneliness and how women's expectations have reduced the 'average' man to being completely unattractive.
“BREAKUP OF BLACK FAMILY IMPERILS GAINS OF DECADES”
Page 20 nov. 1983 — Some people believe that the man-in-the-house rule has contributed to family breakup by forcing fathers to leave the home. Others disagree.
"For many years, the nation's primary welfare program, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, denied benefits to families if an adult male was in the house. That bar was stricken in 1968, and states were permitted, but not required, to cover two-parent families in which the would-be breadwinner was unemployed or underemployed. Some people believe that the man-in-the-house rule has contributed to family breakup by forcing fathers to leave the home. Others disagree."
"The same groups pounced on him again after The New York Times on March 1 published a memo from Mr. Moynihan to President Nixon, dated Jan. 16, 1970, in which the White House counselor, after detailing (with something less than complete accuracy) the “extraordinary progress” that blacks had made economically and politically in the past decade, counseled a period of “benign neglect” of the racial issue.
One, dated Jan. 3, 1969, said, “The Negro lower class must be dissolved.” Five sentences later, Mr. Moynihan explained this un fortunate phrase — the dissolution was to be by transformation Into “a stable working class.”
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Moynihan's Memos: The Political Danger of Thinking (Published 1970)
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Federally Mandated Destruction of the Black Family: The Adoption and Safe Families
By Christina White, Published on 01/01/06
“At the height of the civil rights movement in 1965, when a quarter of black families with children were headed by women, Daniel Patrick Moynihan wrote in a report to President Johnson that this growing matriarchy was an important cause of poverty among black Americans. Mr. Moynihan, then a White House aide, created a furor, accused by many of blaming the victims for their distress.
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Today, 18 years later, virtually half of black families are headed by single women, and 55 percent of black babies are born to unmarried mothers.”
The Moynihan Report
(Daniel Geary, The Atlantic, The Moynihan Report, September 15, 2015)
“The Racist Roots of Welfare Reform American welfare policy historically targeted poor black families”
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The Racist Roots of Welfare Reform
American welfare policy historically targeted poor black families.
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“In 1984, for example, 52% of the black families with a woman as head of household were below the poverty line, compared to 15% of the black married-couple families. While similar trends are occurring in white families, there has been a sharper increase in the proportion of blacks living in these female-maintained families which have high poverty rates.”
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Assessing black progress: employment, occupation, earnings, income, poverty - PubMed
Assessing black progress: employment, occupation, earnings, income, poverty
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“Most of the black demographic trends witnessed in the 1970s have continued during the first half of the 1980s, but the pace of demographic change has slowed in some areas and quickened in others. A short summarization of the major trends is provided below; 1. The black population is growing faster than the white population and blacks are becoming a larger share of the total population. 2. Blacks continue to move out of the North and into the South and West. 3. Blacks continue to move out of central cities into suburbs, but blacks are not moving out of central cities as fast as whites and central city populations are becoming increasingly black. 4. The growth rates of preschool-age blacks increased in the 1980s, but the growth rates of the school age and young adult populations declined. 5. The fertility rates of blacks continued to fall and to approach convergence with those of whites, although there still is a significant gap between black and white fertility rates. 6. Teen birthrates for unmarried blacks continued to fall during the first half of the 1980s. 7. Life expectancy for blacks continued to increase during the 1980s, but at a somewhat slower pace than seen during the 1970s. 8. The share of black children living in single parent families continued to grow during the 1980s at a faster rate than seen during the 1970s. 9. The share of black children living with a never-married parent grew much more rapidly in the 1980s than in the 1970s.”
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Black demographic trends in the 1980s - PubMed
Most of the black demographic trends witnessed in the 1970s have continued during the first half of the 1980s, but the pace of demographic change has slowed in some areas and quickened in others. A short summarization of the major trends is provided below; 1. The black population is growing...
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"Lesbian mothers helped create a foundation of single parent families which challenged the gendered stereotypes of motherhood and hood. They helped single mothers liberate themselves from the constrictions of the traditional nuclear family with its built-in heteronormativity. […] In Separate Roads to Feminism: Black, Chicana and White Feminist Movements in America’s Second Wave, Benita Roth explains how the history of racism in the U.S. played an important part in creating this divide. Instead of arguing about a woman’s right NOT to bear a child, these minority women focused on how to combine motherhood with feminism and equality. They wanted to change the assumption that single motherhood was a pathology and/or a punishment. Single mothers of all ethnicities could relate to this conversation. […]."
Transforming Motherhood: Single Parents' Liberation In The 1970s
Transforming Motherhood examines the experiences of single mothers from the early 1970s until the mid-1980s. Because most accounts of single motherhood in these decades focused on single motherhood as the cause of social problems, most of the discourse about single motherhood is framed on the...
But the space is lead by a bunch of idiots who can't debate outside of the bullet point talking points they keep on an index card. Now instead of addressing the serious issues we see reflected in dating site data, the recent studies that show the severe gap between the # of single men and single women (as well as just looking around), they'll label everything as mere exaggeration by angry incels.
Obsidian Ali does cite peer reviewed sources, but has controversial point of views I can't agree with. Such as how he defended Just Pearl and perhaps still does (simply because he doesn't want to lose face). When Kevin got big he magnified these issues, which is what a lot of people upset. But he too said some problematic things (due to leaning to the Republican and conservative side). Ali has been with the same Black woman for close to 15 years.
The space is complicated. There's no clarity.
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