Oralndo Anderson's Cousin Bragging on Twitter About Killing 2Pac

[phantom 4 lyfe]

@Antiquity how you get out the red so fast?? how many names you got there in canada??

 

[Antiquity]

Ive tried really hard to ignore the stupid points you raise, on principle, because the very idea that someone like you can question someone like Pac 20 years after his death, is insulting to him and elevates your useless ass to a place that's undeserving

But anyone who tries to claim what you did in the bolded is a fukking retard who has NO CLUE about the circumstances leading up to Pacs death and WHY he affiliated himself with the Mob Piru

Only a fukking simpleton would try to compare that situation to Soulja Boy and Chris Brown, but useless pathetic online trolls gon troll I guess

What possible, acceptable excuse could a grown ass man have for joining a gang at 25? Didn't grow up in one, wasn't forced to join by gangbanging family members - he WILLINGLY joined one at damn near thirty years old. And you're telling me that I'm supposed to find some sort of honor or courageousness in such a juvenile and credulous action?

What on earth makes you think that his decision to join the Bloods can be differentiated from Chris Brown and soulja boy? How are there actions any different? How could one person joining a gang be "better" than another person joining a gang? When is joining a gang, especially that late in life, ever a clever or admirable decision?

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

@Antiquity how you get out the red so fast?? how many names you got there in canada??

probably the pac haters repping him.

The same ones that claim his music is garbage, but post in every thread about him.

 

[Farrinto]

I'll admit I'm more of a Biggie fan than a Pac fan but don't y'all have better shyt to do than Monday Morning Quarterbacking a man's decisions who died 20 years ago? He did stupid shyt towards the end of his life but y'all have pages after pages arguing over this shyt

 

[Bigsuk]

wtf are you explaining?
im a female. as is the poster im asking a dikk pic from

Wtf u asking that for in a debate about pacs community activities strange question ..... Be gone little girl Shew .....

 

[Techniec]

What possible, acceptable excuse could a grown ass man have for joining a gang at 25? Didn't grow up in one, wasn't forced to join by gangbanging family members - he WILLINGLY joined one at damn near thirty years old. And you're telling me that I'm supposed to find some sort of honor or courageousness in such a juvenile and credulous action?

What on earth makes you think that his decision to join the Bloods can be differentiated from Chris Brown and soulja boy? How are there actions any different? How could one person joining a gang be "better" than another person joining a gang? When is joining a gang, especially that late in life, ever a clever or admirable decision?

Clearly you've exposed yourself as someone who not only wasn't listening to/following hip hop during that time, but haven't made any attempt to actually know what the fukk youre talking about

The only reason Im even going to reply to a loser ass troll like you is to educate any lurkers or young posters who weren't around then and are subject to misinformation by wierdos with an agenda such as yourself

1-He was barely 25, not "damn near 30 years old"

2-There is no comparison between CB/SB and Pac

a- CB/SB blew up, had money and then decided, STRICTLY for the sake of being social and gaining "points" decided to affiliate themselves with gang members...strictly for image and social status (as they defined it)

Pac affiliated himself with the Mob for a REASON; They were the only ones who could provide him protection and strength against real fukking wolves who were at his head, who had him set up and shot; It just so happens those same people he affiliated himself with, had a pre-existing issue with affiliates (SSCC) of those same wolves who were at Pacs head. It was an alliance of mutual benefit. Suges issue with Puffy was completely separate than Pacs issue with em, and Suge and Pac had a pre-existing relationship

b-CB/SB have ALWAYS been seen as FOOD. NO ONE can say Pac was food to the Mob; EVERY fukkING interview with Mob affiliates from Timmy Ru to Kurt Kobain have spoken on how Pac was LOVED and RESPECTED. No one was chumping Pac. He didn't pay a single CENT of "protection money". He wasn't hanging around the Mob to look cool in clubs

3-Call him naïve or irresponsible (which the luxury of 20 years after the fact provides your sheltered ass), but Pacs vision of gangs was different. He saw them as resources, he saw a potential in them being utilized in a different way. He never had a chance to bear out that vision, and for all we know, he would've eventually seen the futility in that approach, but all you need to do is look at his initial conception of Thug Life, the projects he had in mind, the phone call he had with Monster Kody etc. to understand his mindset

What gets me is how pussies and cowards such as yourself will attack a man 20 years later for making a conscious decision to not accept his set up and shooting (which he could've done, and which 99% of men would've), and decided to turn up against the people who did it by calling them out and attacking the face (Bad Boy). He needed resources to do that. For better or for worse, he saw Suge and the Mob as being that resource

 

[Techniec]

I'll admit I'm more of a Biggie fan than a Pac fan but don't y'all have better shyt to do than Monday Morning Quarterbacking a man's decisions who died 20 years ago? He did stupid shyt towards the end of his life but y'all have pages after pages arguing over this shyt

Bro its not even a matter of "stupid shyt". The shyt that Pac was doing made sense to him at the time, the time being him being a paranoid shot up robbed set up rap superstar. How can any of us even conceptualize being in that position, NEVER MIND that' its 20 years later

We literally have cacs, trolls, p*ssy ass cowards, sheltered losers...picking apart the mans day by day decisions 20 years ago, with a smugness

Everything that Pac did can be understood within the context of who and where Pac was in 95 and 96. He didn't have the benefit of 20 years hindsight

None of these posters who shyt on pac are even half the man he was

 

[The Plug]

Clearly you've exposed yourself as someone who not only wasn't listening to/following hip hop during that time, but haven't made any attempt to actually know what the fukk youre talking about

The only reason Im even going to reply to a loser ass troll like you is to educate any lurkers or young posters who weren't around then and are subject to misinformation by wierdos with an agenda such as yourself

1-He was barely 25, not "damn near 30 years old"

2-There is no comparison between CB/SB and Pac

a- CB/SB blew up, had money and then decided, STRICTLY for the sake of being social and gaining "points" decided to affiliate themselves with gang members...strictly for image and social status (as they defined it)

Pac affiliated himself with the Mob for a REASON; They were the only ones who could provide him protection and strength against real fukking wolves who were at his head, who had him set up and shot; It just so happens those same people he affiliated himself with, had a pre-existing issue with affiliates (SSCC) of those same wolves who were at Pacs head. It was an alliance of mutual benefit. Suges issue with Puffy was completely separate than Pacs issue with em, and Suge and Pac had a pre-existing relationship

b-CB/SB have ALWAYS been seen as FOOD. NO ONE can say Pac was food to the Mob; EVERY fukkING interview with Mob affiliates from Timmy Ru to Kurt Kobain have spoken on how Pac was LOVED and RESPECTED. No one was chumping Pac. He didn't pay a single CENT of "protection money". He wasn't hanging around the Mob to look cool in clubs

3-Call him naïve or irresponsible (which the luxury of 20 years after the fact provides your sheltered ass), but Pacs vision of gangs was different. He saw them as resources, he saw a potential in them being utilized in a different way. He never had a chance to bear out that vision, and for all we know, he would've eventually seen the futility in that approach, but all you need to do is look at his initial conception of Thug Life, the projects he had in mind, the phone call he had with Monster Kody etc. to understand his mindset

What gets me is how pussies and cowards such as yourself will attack a man 20 years later for making a conscious decision to not accept his set up and shooting (which he could've done, and which 99% of men would've), and decided to turn up against the people who did it by calling them out and attacking the face (Bad Boy). He needed resources to do that. For better or for worse, he saw Suge and the Mob as being that resource

Hella reaching

 

[Techniec]

Hella reaching

documented facts son

 

[Antiquity]

1-He was barely 25, not "damn near 30 years old"

Even worse. That's still old enough to know better than to join a gang. If middle schoolers could acknowledge the stupidity in such an action then how could a grown man not?

2-There is no comparison between CB/SB and Pac

a- CB/SB blew up, had money and then decided, STRICTLY for the sake of being social and gaining "points" decided to affiliate themselves with gang members...strictly for image and social status (as they defined it)

You just described Tupac. Blew up, attained money, attempted to enter into a new social scene with real gangstas and heavy hitters to elevate his social status, failed and backfired on him, got locked up for admittedly watching a black woman get raped, ran across the country back to Los Angeles after his prison release, joined the MOB at age 24/25, got MOB tatted on his forearm and got killed not even a full year after joining when he attempted to move like an actual gangbanger and throw hands with reputable killers. He joined the Bloods to "gain points" so that he could be perceived as a feared threat and a member of a powerful ill-boding group .That was a move to augment his social ranking and give him a false sense of power. So that makes two failed attempts to successfully join a group - the latter got him killed. So what in this "differs" from CB or SB? None.

Pac affiliated himself with the Mob for a REASON; They were the only ones who could provide him protection and strength against real fukking wolves who were at his head, who had him set up and shot; It just so happens those same people he affiliated himself with, had a pre-existing issue with affiliates (SSCC) of those same wolves who were at Pacs head. It was an alliance of mutual benefit. Suges issue with Puffy was completely separate than Pacs issue with em, and Suge and Pac had a pre-existing relationship

Ah, I see. Talk big and bad towards everyone else, beat on engineers and directors, but the moment that someone who will actually kill you comes after you, you run behind Suge and his affiliates. Perhaps mr. black panther civil activist shouldnt've of ever attempted to even align himself with well-known criminals in the first place? Not to mention that he shifted the blame of his first shooting towards everyone else at Quad but Henchmen and Tut. He placed himself into a conflict with Puffy (and by virtue Puffy's affiliates) by accusing him of doing Henchmen and Tut's dirty work. He incorrectly assumed that Puffy didn't have powerful connects to kill him like Henchmen and that he could spend an entire year picking on Bad Boy label artists (who, once again, didn't shoot him) and looked what happened. Got killed. If you accuse an array of people of trying to kill you but remain quiet as a church mouse about the people who actually shot you (he went after Big and Puffy first but was silent about Henchmen and Tut until months later. Gee wonder why?) then your common sense should tell you that something bad will surface from that. Every situation he got in, he knowingly put himself in. He wasn't forced to gangbang, he chose to, and it came back on him within months.

b-CB/SB He wasn't hanging around the Mob to look cool in clubs

But he was hanging around the Mob to make himself look threatening and daunting as if he actually had power. You act as if this is somehow different than him walking into a club rolling 50 deep with a set of bloods to look authoritative. Same exact thing.

3-Call him naïve or irresponsible (which the luxury of 20 years after the fact provides your sheltered ass), but Pacs vision of gangs was different. He saw them as resources, he saw a potential in them being utilized in a different way.

This is just a sad attempt to justify a man who was steadily approaching thirty's decision to join a gang. It's entirely irrelevant what he defined gangs to be because we all know logically know exactly what gangs are and what they do - and it's not something positive or good. He joined the bloods because he was scared, in need of acceptance, and realized that he had made the mistake of running his mouth towards people who weren't encapsulated by his stardom and were willing and able to send people after him.

What gets me is how pussies and cowards such as yourself will attack a man 20 years later for making a conscious decision to not accept his set up and shooting (which he could've done, and which 99% of men would've), and decided to turn up against the people who did it by calling them out and attacking the face (Bad Boy). He needed resources to do that. For better or for worse, he saw Suge and the Mob as being that resource

So his response to his shooters was to join a gang at 25? His response to his shooters was to attack the people who didn't shoot him or even have a gun in their hand? His response to the shooting was to direct his temper-tantrum towards artists who barely had money and had no pull in the industry? His response was to attack Bad Boy and not Henchmen and Tut? He didn't call out anyone to the face. He went on senseless rants on wax but ducked and dodged behind Bloods when it was time to approach the heavy-hitters. Went to NYC, messed with the wrong ones, knew that he himself just messed up and dashed across the country back to LA to run away and find protection. You're trying to make this into some sort of heroic thug fairytale and it isn't working. He ran his mouth and continuously and made bad, juvenille decisions until it sent him to the morgue.

 

[King Karim]

alot of wack Cacs, and Black Cacs in here

 

[Bigsuk]

documented facts son

documented facts that still doesn't justify claiming and reppin a gang at 25 ... then set -trippin on a nikka who he had no bizzness set -trippin on n got killed for it ... your point was he afflaited himself with mob due to nikkas been on his head ... I get that ... But nikka there is ways ov been loyal to a crew ov nikkas holding you down without actually trying to be down with that gang ... Getting killed for doing so ..... If this was anyone but pac u would be saying the same thing ov how foolish n stupid he was for doing so .... Since its pac he gets a pass I get it ...

 

[Bigsuk]

Even worse. That's still old enough to know better than to join a gang. If middle schoolers could acknowledge the stupidity in such an action then how could a grown man not?



You just described Tupac. Blew up, attained money, attempted to enter into a new social scene with real gangstas and heavy hitters to elevate his social status, failed and backfired on him, got locked up for admittedly watching a black woman get raped, ran across the country back to Los Angeles after his prison release, joined the MOB at age 24/25, got MOB tatted on his forearm and got killed not even a full year after joining when he attempted to move like an actual gangbanger and throw hands with reputable killers. He joined the Bloods to "gain points" so that he could be perceived as a feared threat and a member of a powerful ill-boding group .That was a move to augment his social ranking and give him a false sense of power. So that makes two failed attempts to successfully join a group - the latter got him killed. So what in this "differs" from CB or SB? None.



Ah, I see. Talk big and bad towards everyone else, beat on engineers and directors, but the moment that someone who will actually kill you comes after you, you run behind Suge and his affiliates. Perhaps mr. black panther civil activist shouldnt've of ever attempted to even align himself with well-known criminals in the first place? Not to mention that he shifted the blame of his first shooting towards everyone else at Quad but Henchmen and Tut. He placed himself into a conflict with Puffy (and by virtue Puffy's affiliates) by accusing him of doing Henchmen and Tut's dirty work. He incorrectly assumed that Puffy didn't have powerful connects to kill him like Henchmen and that he could spend an entire year picking on Bad Boy label artists (who, once again, didn't shoot him) and looked what happened. Got killed. If you accuse an array of people of trying to kill you but remain quiet as a church mouse about the people who actually shot you (he went after Big and Puffy first but was silent about Henchmen and Tut until months later. Gee wonder why?) then your common sense should tell you that something bad will surface from that. Every situation he got in, he knowingly put himself in. He wasn't forced to gangbang, he chose to, and it came back on him within months.



But he was hanging around the Mob to make himself look threatening and daunting as if he actually had power. You act as if this is somehow different than him walking into a club rolling 50 deep with a set of bloods to look authoritative. Same exact thing.



This is just a sad attempt to justify a man who was steadily approaching thirty's decision to join a gang. It's entirely irrelevant what he defined gangs to be because we all know logically know exactly what gangs are and what they do - and it's not something positive or good. He joined the bloods because he was scared, in need of acceptance, and realized that he had made the mistake of running his mouth towards people who weren't encapsulated by his stardom and were willing and able to send people after him.




So his response to his shooters was to join a gang at 25? His response to his shooters was to attack the people who didn't shoot him or even have a gun in their hand? His response to the shooting was to direct his temper-tantrum towards artists who barely had money and had no pull in the industry? His response was to attack Bad Boy and not Henchmen and Tut? He didn't call out anyone to the face. He went on senseless rants on wax but ducked and dodged behind Bloods when it was time to approach the heavy-hitters. Went to NYC, messed with the wrong ones, knew that he himself just messed up and dashed across the country back to LA to run away and find protection. You're trying to make this into some sort of heroic thug fairytale and it isn't working. He ran his mouth and continuously and made bad, juvenille decisions until it sent him to the morgue.

Dam tech getting schooled like a muthafukka lol .... theses nikkas can't seperate the man from the music pacs the 1 ov the goats but come on ... I said this before ... If pac was alive n doing the same shyt present times wat he was doing back then he would be getting called out all the time for some ov the bullshyt he was doing ...

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

documented facts that still doesn't justify claiming and reppin a gang at 25 ... then set -trippin on a nikka who he had no bizzness set -trippin on n got killed for it ... your point was he afflaited himself with mob due to nikkas been on his head ... I get that ... But nikka there is ways ov been loyal to a crew ov nikkas holding you down without actually trying to be down with that gang ... Getting killed for doing so ..... If this was anyone but pac u would be saying the same thing ov how foolish n stupid he was for doing so .... Since its pac he gets a pass I get it ...

If SSCC had a bounty out on Pac's head, would that not justify Pac running up on Orlando Anderson?

Might not have been the wisest decision, but I can see how that could cause a nicca to launch off.


That situation was the perfect storm.The way it was interconnected and woven in with the Quad situation.


So perfect, it was in Pac's destiny to go out like that IMO.....and that's tragic

 

[Dig]

I act like I don't even see these cac/troll posts brehs and keep it pushing. You're not going to convince them of anything by debating or going back and forth. Anybody speaking ill of a man 20+ years after his death lets me kno cloth they cut from. Comparing Chris brown and Soulja boy to Tupac