Once the Spurs core was broken up, Bron was supposed to go on an insane title run......

[staticshock]

Bron doesn't win his ring in Cleveland without Kyrie and Love.

Which is why the Cavs didn’t win in 2015, right?

 

[VegetasHairline]

And 1-8 in the Finals.. but it doesn’t diminish Jerry West cause he’s still a top 15 caliber guy, same applies to LeBron and him going to the Finals 10 times

Smart NBA fans know this, while dumb ones dont

Guess which one you are

LeExcuses

 

[bl2k8]

And for anybody thinking this thread is a "stan war" thread, who's to say Jordan wouldn't have went through the same thing had a Kobe or Shaq entered the league in his 5th or 6th yr in the league?

It's all about timing

Mike is the ONLY modern day superstar where you can say he shut teams/star players windows for a significant period of time.

There hasn’t been a single superstar since him where you can defenitevly say one single player ran the era

 

[jaydawg08]

Mike is the ONLY modern day superstar where you can say he shut teams/players windows for a significant period of time.

There hasn’t been a single superstar since him where you can defenitevly say one single player ran the era

greatest thing for Mikes legacy was retiring

you do realize he lost to the Magic in the playoffs and Hakeem won AGAIN right?

 

[Trojan 24]

LeCal Ripken stans going thru it

 

[Don Homer]

It starts and ends with Steph. A KD led team was never stopping Bron

Not to mention the 2022 finals which steph won that got him tied with LeBron in ring count

 

[KidJSoul]

Lol @ Steph happened. Dude with one finals MVP and is a target on defense.

KD joining a 73 win squad happened.

Love and Kyrie getting hurt in the 2015 finals leaving Matthew Delevadova as his next best teammate happened.

Bron should have won the 2015 finals MVP even in a loss

If the Warriors won 73 games and still couldn't beat Lebron with a healthy Cavs team, what makes you think they would have beaten Lebron after 2016?

The first year they played his top 2 players got hurt. Then he beat them and then they got KD…

Can yall stop acting like the healthy 2016 cavs swept the warriors?

They barely won that shyt in 7 despite Curry's MCL

You really think there's No chance for the warriors to win without KD? WHEN the series was THAT close? Braindead

No mention of iggy and bogut getting hurt in 2016, plus Draymond suspension. Funny how yall love these one sided narratives that only benefit LeBron.

This too

 

[Trojan 24]

Can yall stop acting like the healthy 2016 cavs swept the warriors?

They barely won that shyt in 7 despite Curry's MCL

You really think there's No chance for the warriors to win without KD? WHEN the series was THAT close? Braindead


This too

They sick individuals

 

[murksiderock]

They're tied at 33 but go ahead and argue semantics.

You sound crazy. Both with 33 losses bit One guy has 4 times as many championships, one guy has that many losses in one fewer Finals appearance, and one guy was a #2 on his only title run while the other was a #1 on all of his...

Bit sure, same number of lost games, Same Guy

LeBron would have lost some series in the 90s to that competition. The Jazz and supersonics? I don't trust LeBron against that at all.

The teams that beat LeBron in The Finals besides the '11 Mavs were all dynasties. So sure, you could make an educated guess and say he chokes to one of those teams, since he actually has a Finals choke...

Mike is the ONLY modern day superstar where you can say he shut teams/star players windows for a significant period of time.

There hasn’t been a single superstar since him where you can defenitevly say one single player ran the era

This is an exaggerated premise, though...

Mike only stopped the people he beat from winning, he didn't shut stars out for an entire era. The Knicks, Jazz, and whatever team Barkley played for were perennial chokers regardless of who they played. The Spurs were chokers who never played the Bulls in the playoffs, how did Mike shut them out?

You old enough to let go of that bullshyt 90s rhetoric now, g

 

[mastermind]

I think it's more of a "then Steph AND KD happened". People forget it took the Warriors 6 games to beat a decimated Cavs team, and they lost the following year in 2016 when Kyrie and Kevin Love were healthy. Without KD, the Steph run doesn't happen

The better hypothetical would be if KD stayed in OKC and you had 3 MVP caliber players on one roster (KD, Russ, Harden), have a Dynasty, and that would halt Lebron's title runs

You can’t have it both ways.

The Warriors were up 3-1 on the Cavs with a weakened Steph until Draymond got suspened and then Bogut got hurt.

Either Warriors didn't need KD or they did.

 

[Road20]

Yup

He’s had multiple paths to getting into the top tier of prolific champions

He was supposed to run off like 5-6 when he quit on the Cavs the first time to make the super team in MIA…but no one saw him choking in the Dallas finals and wade breaking down like he did…the Heat probably had the know-how and franchise infrastructure to rebuild and win more, but Bron wasn’t a Duncan/Curry/etc reliable franchise cornerstone type that you build a long term dynasty around because he always has one foot out the door for

Quit the Heat and got younger versions of the “all-nba guard and all-nba forward” Superteam template in Cleveland…but no one saw Steph becoming the next transcendent star in the league and Golden State being a dynasty

He quit the Cavs again to come to the GOAT franchise and gets paired with another in-prime all nba 1st Team team mate in AD…a lot of people saw AD and late 30s Bron having injuries, and they still managed to get a chip out the deal…then almost implausibly he gets ANOTHER go of it with Luka

Realistically considering the highest level talent he’s played with and supposing to be the GOAT, he could easily have 8 chips

Playing out your full contract isn't quitting. He was a free agent

 

[UpAndComing]

You can’t have it both ways.

The Warriors were up 3-1 on the Cavs with a weakened Steph until Draymond got suspened and then Bogut got hurt.

Either Warriors didn't need KD or they did.

Excuses Excuses

Up 3-1 means nothing, THEY LOST. Period

Being hampered by a nagging injury is not the same as Kyrie and Kevin Love COMPLETELY OUT OF THE SERIES in 2015 and not playing at all

The Thunder were up on the Warriors 3-1 and lost the series in the Western Conference Finals, does it mean the Thunder were the best team and should have won the title that season?

 

[Osmosis]

Yup

He’s had multiple paths to getting into the top tier of prolific champions

He was supposed to run off like 5-6 when he quit on the Cavs the first time to make the super team in MIA…but no one saw him choking in the Dallas finals and wade breaking down like he did…the Heat probably had the know-how and franchise infrastructure to rebuild and win more, but Bron wasn’t a Duncan/Curry/etc reliable franchise cornerstone type that you build a long term dynasty around because he always has one foot out the door for

Quit the Heat and got younger versions of the “all-nba guard and all-nba forward” Superteam template in Cleveland…but no one saw Steph becoming the next transcendent star in the league and Golden State being a dynasty

He quit the Cavs again to come to the GOAT franchise and gets paired with another in-prime all nba 1st Team team mate in AD…a lot of people saw AD and late 30s Bron having injuries, and they still managed to get a chip out the deal…then almost implausibly he gets ANOTHER go of it with Luka

Realistically considering the highest level talent he’s played with and supposing to be the GOAT, he could easily have 8 chips

@ this retarded ass shyt

Lebron is the only ATG that spent nearly the first decade of their career playing with the likes of Boobie Gibson and Mo Williams. Outside of Wade/Bosh, and two seasons with Kyrie, most of the "high level talent" he played with was when he was passed his prime at an age when most legends retire.

Kobe, Steph, MJ, Duncan were all either drafted to teams with future HOFs already on there or their squad drafted a future HOF while they were early in their career.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Buckeye breh going through it watching LeBron put up 21/11/7 at 40 in the playoffs while he can’t get of the couch at 40.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Buckeye Fever let off a bomb in here and then dipped. I see you.