Older black men dropped the ball, they're a damn disgrace

[BrandonBanks]

OP made some damn good points.

I think a huge problem too is, any criticism, even the slightest, gets taken as an "attack". I'm a man, and when i tell another Black man something, whether it's my friends, fam, or even some of you cats on here, rest assured, it's not an attack. If there's a problem (and there definitely is one, multiple problems) then how can it ever be solved if no one even wants to acknowledge or address it because they think someone is "picking on" them? I've been in the trenches of Iraq. I've seen some fukked up shyt. Really made me stronger mentally so i don't take criticism personally. Discussing this on a message board won't "hurt" us.

I just thought about how some of my male relatives in that age group are (not all of them but more than it should be). My grandma has had to call me over to fix some shyt for her, 2 of my uncles who live in the city only come over there to get a plate, they don't help her and really don't own anything other than their car (if that)....these are dudes that are in their 40s-50s.....still don't own a home (they either rent or they move in with women)....not stable...still working jobs that a teenager should be doing. Some of them have estranged kids...they see them every now & then but weren't really a father figure/active in their kids' lives....once they split up from the wife or baby mama they split up with their own kids too and didn't come around much....left the role of fatherhood for the next nikka....

My dad is in his 40s and while he's not that way, i can think of some of my friend's fathers who are just pathetic...not stable/reliable....make impulsive decisions like a young boy...one of them got some money from a settlement and then gambled most of it away in the casino instead of using it to start his own business to keep the money flowing in.....word is he didn't even give his kids any money for their future....but was all in Vegas posting pics of it on Facebook. Taking pics of bottles like a 20 yr old.

Yeah it's pretty pathetic. All this time, and barely anything to show for it. This gen is paying for it and as another bro in here said, it's like us younger black men are basically starting from scratch because these cats didn't bother setting anything up that we could build on. I'm going to build anyway but it's still the truth. And back then, dudes thought, 'as long as we can eat in the same restaurants as the White Man, and attend the same schools, we'll be good.' But nah. Malcolm said WAY back then that black businesses/ownership was the way to go, because it would be foolish as a race to rely on your oppressor for your livelihood. But nobody wanted to listen to it. Said he was "crazy". Even now, a lot of dudes don't wanna hear it.

I know of maybe a few of these dudes who drop some wisdom but most have no gems to offer a young brother in his 20s....if u want to hear about which shawty got the fattest ass, sure, they can tell u all about that, or tales about beefs they had with other dudes back in the day, of course. But when it comes to business, white supremacy, macroeconomics etc you will get hit with the

 

[BrandonBanks]

these nikkas are suppose to be schooling us, setting the example....where are our black owned businesses? why r these young girls thots? where r the fathers? the community is broken, these nikkas were suppose to have all this shyt set up so the next gen could eat, but these old docile nikkas still wanna c00n and jig....still begging for jobs n shyt...how r u 52 working for cacs taking orders from cacs 21 years old?...

in these retail and FF places i see lil miley cyrus looking bytches bossing some nikka that's 49 around, telling him to go grab the carts ....shyt is embarrassing, wheres ur fukking pride?...they'll smile and dance for the white man, then when a young brother come up we get the fukking face....these nikkas lucky we don't kick they're ass...they deserve it. Ive actually had convos with old nikkas, and these nikkas talk about p*ssy like some HS kid...ur suppose to be dropping game, so we can avoid the traps in this society


our men was to suppose set this shyt up, now us young men out here building from scratch. nikkas arent real men, abandoning their women, creating these single parent homes

Some of the realest shyt said on here in awhile.

 

[Swirv]

Word that's who I was referring too , Baby boomers kind of looking funny in the light because they were alive (atleast the early baby boomers) to witness some of the most prolific figures in black history and didn't retain none of the information they provided or take the imitative to make sure their people as a whole prosper economically when Malcolm X basically gave them the blueprint , that shyt boggles my mind truthfully ..

They weren't even allowed to own stock breh. Banks wouldn't lend them money. Really this country is set up so only a few of us can achieve great success at a time despite our low numbers. Education, self respect and confidence are probably our best bet if we don't war.

 

[Swirv]

My uncle told me his biggest regret as a father was pushing getting a good job on his sons instead of telling them to be creators of jobs.

 

[Scott Larock]

They were raised in a era where it's a hassle for black people to acquire work , poverty was astronomical and Regan plagued their communities with crack & guns deteriorating the black family structure . I can't front I be feeling the same way you feeling sometimes but then I remember alot of this was calculated and deliberately done ...

Dap + rep coming.

Also our parents where slaves to the system completely. Older mom's are highly religious and really didn't have a strong drive they depended on god to provide. Alot of them raised men that they loved but didn't respect. Ill always said they'll love you but wont date a dude like you.

Expectations where low, very low. I'm getting my shyt together and I see you young nikkas already got it together. We grew up totally different.

I really envy you young nikkas. Y'all grew up under a stronger sense of unit and pride. We grew up under mommy with a bible and prayer. Pops just took off.

When I see you nikkas make threads bit black women are this and that I'm like

nikkas fit degrees and bread y'all bytching? nikkas must be lame as fukk

 

[Skrilla]

I just thought about how some of my male relatives in that age group are (not all of them but more than it should be). My grandma has had to call me over to fix some shyt for her, 2 of my uncles who live in the city only come over there to get a plate, they don't help her and really don't own anything other than their car (if that)....these are dudes that are in their 40s-50s.....still don't own a home (they either rent or they move in with women)....not stable...still working jobs that a teenager should be doing. Some of them have estranged kids...they see them every now & then but weren't really a father figure/active in their kids' lives....once they split up from the wife or baby mama they split up with their own kids too and didn't come around much....left the role of fatherhood for the next nikka....

i know some dudes in their 40s who still shack up with a chick or stay over there for periods of time but don't even do stuff like mow the lawn or fix anything even though they eat there regularly, get their laundry done for free and don't have to pay rent. The chick either does it herself or has to pay for another nikka to come do it for her. One of them called me and asked me if i could come take a look at the car cuz it wouldn't start her nikka is twice my age (i'm 22)....she ended up taking it to the shop & paid for it herself cuz he told her he didn't have enough money....pathetic....

My dad is in his 40s and while he's not that way, i can think of some of my friend's fathers who are just pathetic...not stable/reliable....make impulsive decisions like a young boy...one of them got some money from a settlement and then gambled most of it away in the casino instead of using it to start his own business to keep the money flowing in.....word is he didn't even give his kids any money for their future....but was all in Vegas posting pics of it on Facebook. Taking pics of bottles like a 20 yr old.

A early/mid 40s dude who lost his home due to Katrina, he got a fat check later & instead of using it to pay for another house or something, this dude spent it all on jewels, clothes, J's, and in the strip club on random hoes.

These dudes don't even think of the word "business" or ways to generate more money. The first thing some of these cats do when they get some green is spend it on stuff that depreciates instead of appreciates



GOAT scene...

 

[Skrilla]

All this time, and barely anything to show for it. This gen is paying for it and as another bro in here said, it's like us younger black men are basically starting from scratch because these cats didn't bother setting anything up that we could build on. I'm going to build anyway but it's still the truth. And back then, dudes thought, 'as long as we can eat in the same restaurants as the White Man, and attend the same schools, we'll be good.' But nah. Malcolm said WAY back then that black businesses/ownership was the way to go, because it would be foolish as a race to rely on your oppressor for your livelihood. But nobody wanted to listen to it. Said he was "crazy". Even now, a lot of dudes don't wanna hear it.

U right though. I remember that pizza thread. Mothafukkas gave a million reasons why it "can't be done".

I know of maybe a few of these dudes who drop some wisdom but most have no gems to offer a young brother in his 20s....if u want to hear about which shawty got the fattest ass, sure, they can tell u all about that, or tales about beefs they had with other dudes back in the day, of course. But when it comes to business, white supremacy, macroeconomics etc you will get hit with the

"I used to run this block"

It's like yeah nikka but what have u DONE though?....

 

[Micky Mikey]

I like the discussion in this thread. In fact, I have something to post a little later.

 

[BrandonBanks]

"I used to run this block"

It's like yeah nikka but what have u DONE though?....

Exactly, and what i kind of think too is a lot of black men suffer from depression....but due to the stigma of mental health issues and how we are perceived if we need help, a lot of it goes undiagnosed and unchecked...so some brehs turn to other avenues to "escape" so to speak. Like drinking a lot which leads to some becoming full blown alcoholics, smoking too much or destructive behavior toward others. It got the best of some of them. This definitely isn't an excuse but i feel like some of that contributed to how things are now. It shouldn't be this way though.

Next, a lot of brehs don't work together or hate on each other relentlessly. I've been out and had dudes shoot me a look for no reason, even when i'm just sitting at a light. Where as some other minorities, work together more to get shyt done, they might not even be best friends but when it comes to making money some of them put that other shyt aside and do what they have to.

And "i used to run this block" sounds exactly like what i've heard an older breh say Like, what does that shyt mean in the grand scheme of things? What foundation have u set? Have u done anything that has helped people? Fed, clothed, taught, employed, something? After 40-50 something years of being on this earth? Just talking about how we "don't know nothin bout real music" isn't cutting it

 

[Surreal]

Y'all voted for Obama

 

[BrandonBanks]

a lot of our grandparents bought into the multiculturalism lie. they didn't teach our parents generation shyt about white supremacy, businesses, ownership, etc. then we got raised totally oblivious to system we were born into. the older generation believed jobs would always be readily available, like we could inherit that shyt.

and i feel you, @DrX, i get tired of seeing these old zombie lookin nikkas on the streets begging for change as well. especially when they're accosting black women, shyt is embarrassing.

Truth

 

[Skrilla]

Yep 40 and 50 year old men, with SEVERAL children, living up under some woman in her section 8 apartment or in the back bedroom of their 80 year old parents homes. It both sad and pathetic.

Pretty much. And aren't even embarrassed about it either

 

[TEH]

Divide and rule. Instead of us seeking to build across generations, we tear down and blame the victims. Thanks White Supremacy.

 

[Skrilla]

Damn now that you mention it. I know more older people who have lived paycheck to paycheck for 10+ years, have a lot of kids, working retail jobs, multiple generations living in one house, in and out of jail, fighting, doing dumb shyt, selling their soul for money. Some older people are worst then teens with dumb stuff they do. And a lot don't have money saved up for future generations. No one plans for the long term. If someone dies, either no one has a will or their kids inherit money or property that has to be divided among 50 kids, so everyone gets chump change.

Seen this shyt happen myself. it's like and that's IF they leave them anything at all. I know dudes who's dad died and they didn't get left shyt...no property, house, money, etc i'm talking nothing....the dad didn't even take out a life insurance policy...

 

[Skrilla]

Divide and rule. Instead of us seeking to build across generations, we tear down and blame the victims. Thanks White Supremacy.

This one thread on a message board is "dividing" the race though? Is it dividing the race when nikkas on here talk about smashing pawgs and all the other shyt that gets discussed on here? Or is this the only thing that is supposed to not be talked about?

Of course white supremacy is the problem, but that doesn't mean Gen X nikkas couldn't have done more than what they've done. If you TRULY think they did as much as possible, to the best of their ability, i have a bridge in Antarctica i want to sell you.