Official The Irishman Thread

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I routinely have 80-100+ Alerts.

I'm well aware of Irwin Winkler's law suit. He claimed the movie made $275 million total. In 2014. Meaning it took 24 years to do more than what "TMNT" did in it's initial run. So how was it more profitable?

Also keep in mind you have no idea if these numbers are even true, as they settled out of court. According to WB the movie never even broke even.

AMC is showing "Parasite" 5 minutes away from me.

Also there's an Alamo Drafthouse in Brooklyn. Again, where exactly do you live?



You're talking about genres, I'm talking about quality.

You seriously think Scorsese was happy with "Goodfellas" being blown out of the water by "3 Men And A Little Lady"?

Let alone "Total Recall", which was an "amusement park" film from that era.

Which again is my point. "Goodfellas" was the best film on that list by a wide margin....yet it's nowhere near the most successful.

Fred.

Breh.... you just got done saying the movie flopped. It's budget was $25M. If the number of $275M is anywhere close that is a huge profit and it's still making money and will always make money. It was just on what AMC the other day lol.. it's always on.

I don't know if he was just talking home video sales either, WB makes money on the TV rights, as far as what the actual numbers are we will never know because according to major studios movies are never a "profit"..

Disney, WB, all these studios claim that their movies don't make money. It takes lawsuits and digging from places like Deadline and estimates to determine what the profits "likely" are..

WB claimed Harry Potter didn't make money

I don't know how Scorsese felt about Total Recall but I can tell you there was more thought put into Total Recall than most movies you see in the mainstream today. Mainstream has never been worse.

 

[8WON6]

i thought this was alright. Pesci was great. Pacino as Hoffa, felt exactly like Pacino as Hoffa . But yeah i thought it was all just okay-ish. I don't think they did a good enough job making these men seem like the true pieces of shyt they are.

 

[hex]

Breh.... you just got done saying the movie flopped. It's budget was $25M. If the number of $275M is anywhere close that is a huge profit and it's still making money and will always make money. It was just on what AMC the other day lol.. it's always on.

I don't know if he was just talking home video sales either, WB makes money on the TV rights, as far as what the actual numbers are we will never know because according to major studios movies are never a "profit"..

Disney, WB, all these studios claim that their movies don't make money. It takes lawsuits and digging from places like Deadline and estimates to determine what the profits "likely" are..

WB claimed Harry Potter didn't make money

I don't know how Scorsese felt about Total Recall but I can tell you there was more thought put into Total Recall than most movies you see in the mainstream today. Mainstream has never been worse.

You said it was more profitable than "TMNT" based on nothing. There is literally nothing to suggest that.

Actually, never mind all that.

Scorsese went on his initial rant because "comic movies were pushing out real cinema" or however he worded it. Which is clearly bullshyt. There wasn't a comic book movie in the top 10 when "Goodfellas" came out....yet it wasn't anywhere near #1. And if you factor in world-wide box office, it wouldn't even be top 20.
Or "Casino"....came out in 1995. Wasn't even top 10 in domestic box office. It was beaten by "Babe", a movie about a talking pig, for Christ sake.

Matter of fact, the #1 movie based on domestic box office in 1995 was "Batman Forever"....a critically derided comic movie.

But no, let's act like this is a modern trend.

Like I said, mainstream cinema has mostly always been trash and the best movies are rarely the most popular or successful. So let's not sit here and act like people would magically develop good taste if only those mean ol comic movies went bye-bye.

Fred.

 

[MartyMcFly]

This shyt is incredible. Top to fukking bottom. Great performances across the board and a great meditation on the gangster genre and showing how it’s not even a little glamorous. It’s seedy and dangerous and corrupt and it’s constantly having a conversation with itself. What’s the costs of doing business? How much of your life and your soul do you forfeit all in the name of “protection”?

scorsese did his thing here and all of the performances are controlled too. No one went to a 10 even when they could’ve. There’s just a steadiness to this flick and a master at work. Not my fav movie of the year but definitely my number three on the list. My boy said this is his Unforgiven and that is the best way to think of it and puts it all in context.

 

[8WON6]

was it ever explained why the daughter was always creeped out by pesci's character. Was that supposed be like their way of calling him a pedo? And why the daughter liked Hoffa?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

is clearly bullshyt. There wasn't a comic book movie in the top 10 when "Goodfellas" came out....yet it wasn't anywhere near #1.

It was #7 in the U.S. so on the year there were dozens of movies and it was top ten and then went on to makes hundreds of millions for WB and still does. That's quite a bit different than what the landscape is today where theater chains are bought out for blockbusters..

Someone mentioned Captain Marvel or whatever in here. No, I don't think that's an issue because whether it sucked or not it made a lot of money, the issue is studios putting these other blockbusters in there that can't even turn a fukking profit.. Who thought these were a good idea? Every year there are a dozen blockbuster movies that fail whereas a medium budget movie would have actually turned a profit.

 

[MartyMcFly]

was it ever explained why the daughter was always creeped out by pesci's character. Was that supposed be like their way of calling him a pedo? And why the daughter liked Hoffa?

No it wasn’t explained but I read it that she knew he was crooked. She could tell. Hoffa was crooked by association but not an actual gangster.

 

[hex]

It was #7 in the U.S. so on the year there were dozens of movies and it was top ten and then went on to makes hundreds of millions for WB and still does. That's quite a bit different than what the landscape is today where theater chains are bought out for blockbusters..

Someone mentioned Captain Marvel or whatever in here. No, I don't think that's an issue because whether it sucked or not it made a lot of money, the issue is studios putting these other blockbusters in there that can't even turn a fukking profit.. Who thought these were a good idea? Every year there are a dozen blockbuster movies that fail whereas a medium budget movie would have actually turned a profit.

Theater chains are bought for block busters because nobody is going to see movies any more. Not saying it's right, but that's the business reality of it.

You act like these guys know what will make a profit. Since this is "The Irishman" thread, let's look at some cold hard facts.

The last mob movie Scorsese did was "Casino". Again, it didn't even crack the top 10 in 1995. So it stands to reason a $160 million mob movie won't be a hit in 2019. Especially one that struggled to get financed in the first place, and lost distribution because of it.

And I don't even know what point you're arguing any more. Scorsese is specifically talking about comic movies. Hell, Marvel movies at that. Which are some of the most successful films at the box office.

He didn't say anything about block busters that don't turn a profit. But for the sake of argument let's remove the big budget flops like "Gemini Man", "Hellboy", "Dark Phoenix", etc. from the 2019 box office. That =/= people would suddenly flock to go see "The Irishman". Again, they didn't flock to go see "Casino".

Fred.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Theater chains are bought for block busters because nobody is going to see movies any more. Not saying it's right, but that's the business reality of it.

You act like these guys know what will make a profit. Since this is "The Irishman" thread, let's look at some cold hard facts.

The last mob movie Scorsese did was "Casino". Again, it didn't even crack the top 10 in 1995. So it stands to reason a $160 million mob movie won't be a hit in 2019. Especially one that struggled to get financed in the first place, and lost distribution because of it.

And I don't even know what point you're arguing any more. Scorsese is specifically talking about comic movies. Hell, Marvel movies at that. Which are some of the most successful films at the box office.

He didn't say anything about block busters that don't turn a profit. But for the sake of argument let's remove the big budget flops like "Gemini Man", "Hellboy", "Dark Phoenix", etc. from the 2019 box office. That =/= people would suddenly flock to go see "The Irishman". Again, they didn't flock to go see "Casino".

Fred.

Wolf of Wall Street made $400M worldwide and it was rated R, long as fukk... all of the things that we've discussed. It wasn't a mob movie but it was a type of crime drama.

I know you're going to say his last joint didn't make anything but he obviously made that for himself and it didn't catch on, most directors have movies that didn't catch on.

Wolf of Wall Street was more profitable than Dark Phoenix and all those joints that lost a lot of money... it stands to reason that The Irishman could have had a similar run.

 

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Has this been posted here yet?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Netflix is due for good news and 'The Irishman' could be the answer, says JP Morgan

 

[Uptown WaYo87]

Ive been thinking back this might be a 9.8/10 for me, only thing stopping it from a 10 is de niro with the young face cgi but still moving like a old man. Espicially in that scene where he beats the dude up. But i think i can mentally bypass that next time because at the end of the day it is acting and him being old just is what it is

 

[Triggamatic]

Every time Frank painted a house had me

Scorsese is the goat at that real gritty documentary style filmmaking

 

[MartyMcFly]

Every time Frank painted a house had me

Scorsese is the goat at that real gritty documentary style filmmaking

There were a couple shots (no pun intended) when that shyt felt like it was out of a documentary. The way he ran up in the spot in little Italy and the last scene with Hoffa

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

There were a couple shots (no pun intended) when that shyt felt like it was out of a documentary. The way he ran up in the spot in little Italy and the last scene with Hoffa

The Gallo shooting was the way that was shot.. but the whole lead up and tension into the Hoffa 'meeting' was incredible too. That whole stretch of like 45 minutes is the best shyt I seen in a while.