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The more I think about it, the more some rules of inversion don't make sense and it feels Nolan has been arbitrarily applying or ignoring rules to fit his concept.

When JDW goes through the door the first time after the highway attack he gets in a car and drives to the scene backwards in time. That created and instant and real paradox since JDW is moving backwards in time but drives a vehicle that should be moving forward in time. There is no reason to assume the car is inverted (this goes for any normal vehicle being driven by an inverted person).

In theory what would happen is that as the car is driven, the car moves forward in time in correlation to the driver moving backwards in time, creating a growing rupture of spacetime as the two drift further out of time sync the more they spatially move.

Practically this situation could really only cause a complete standstill, like two opposing forces pulling away from each other at equal force. Nothing happens as long as the person traveling back in time tries to move a forward moving object through space.

The entire concept of the film pretty much stands by an acceptance of the idea that the universe around us adapts/morphs to account for the space-time displacement, eg. the moment JDW gets in the car the entire vehicle becomes inverted, thus it recovers fuel as it is driven and wear and tear on tires would be equally reversed.

Except that Nolan has Neill specifically state that forward movement is the universe's natural momentum and thus pushes back against reverse flow of time. If that is true, JDW shouldn't have been able to push the car into moving backwards in time, the car would push JDW to start moving forwards in time again, slowly undoing the artificially implemented inversion to his being.
 
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Went last night. Cinema had social distancing so it was quiet and it was one of these little boutique cinemas with sofas, and pizza & red wine delivered to you :whew:

Ngl, this shyt confused the fukk out of me at times but there were sections that I was piecing together as it was going that had me:ohlawd:

Can't wait to watch it again :wow:
 
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Watched it on Friday and I'm still not sure what to give it. Right now I'm leaning on 7.5/10.

The score, cinematography and action scenes were top notch. The inversion scenes was also really cool, especially during the 10 min mission :wow:

My gripe with the movie is the muddled plot that's a bit difficult to follow and the sound editing/mixing. At times I felt the score, while good, very flat. There was a "fullness" missing in the bass and of course, some dialogue was hard to hear. I found the muffled dialogue down right incredulous. Like in 2020 there's no reason for that type of error to go past final production. Like didn't someone catch it earlier and give Nolan a hint?

The explain the plot thing was also a heavy handed. I know Nolan does this, especially on these time warp movies, but this just felt too on the nose.

I think I may have to see it again to catch all the little details. All in all, I enjoyed it and would recommend. I just felt slightly disappointed as I wanted to like this movie a lot based on the trailers and Nolan's past work.

SN: The trailers for Dune, Greenland and Judas & the Black Messiah :ohhh::whoo::damn::ohlawd:

The movies are back with a bang
 
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YaThreadTrashB! said:
Enjoyed the movie


My only question is why didn’t kat need her own oxygen supply when she killed sator?
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I think

by that time she had reverted again, so she was living "forwards". Just like that Sator is the Sator who we saw travelling backwards, the "present" Sator is around somewhere as well.
 
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TheGodling said:
The more I think about it, the more some rules of inversion don't make sense and it feels Nolan has been arbitrarily applying or ignoring rules to fit his concept.

When JDW goes through the door the first time after the highway attack he gets in a car and drives to the scene backwards in time. That created and instant and real paradox since JDW is moving backwards in time but drives a vehicle that should be moving forward in time. There is no reason to assume the car is inverted (this goes for any normal vehicle being driven by an inverted person).

In theory what would happen is that as the car is driven, the car moves forward in time in correlation to the driver moving backwards in time, creating a growing rupture of spacetime as the two drift further out of time sync the more they spatially move.

Practically this situation could really only cause a complete standstill, like two opposing forces pulling away from each other at equal force. Nothing happens as long as the person traveling back in time tries to move a forward moving object through space.

The entire concept of the film pretty much stands by an acceptance of the idea that the universe around us adapts/morphs to account for the space-time displacement, eg. the moment JDW gets in the car the entire vehicle becomes inverted, thus it recovers fuel as it is driven and wear and tear on tires would be equally reversed.

Except that Nolan has Neill specifically state that forward movement is the universe's natural momentum and thus pushes back against reverse flow of time. If that is true, JDW shouldn't have been able to push the car into moving backwards in time, the car would push JDW to start moving forwards in time again, slowly undoing the artificially implemented inversion to his being.
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Nolan outright told you not to understand it, feel it.

Out of all the science fiction, especially regarding time traveling....we don't process the logic. We never questioned the scientific logic of Back to the Future, for example...but want to overthink this. When the simplest explanation is
forward time and inverted time are synced simultaneously. They coexist while being parallel at the same time. Don't try to overthink. Just accept it as with ANY science fiction film.
 
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904 said:
Just finished

I understand the premise and what was going on there just some parts where I wondered how we got here lol

I need to see it again but with closed captions to fully grasp it.. I have to watch everything this way
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Did you see it in an IMAX screening? If so, I suggest to watch it on a regular screening. You wouldn't need close captions to understand what's said.
 
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