Official: REAL 4k, HDR tvs

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Most 10 bit panels out are 8 bits dithered up to 10, nd the native 10 bits dither up to 12.
In the LCD world it goes like this:
1. Flagship TV - probably a 9 series model number. has all the bells and whistles and almost always has full array local dimming which means the backlight is evenly lit across the whole TV from an array behind it. ridiculously expensive in PC terms this is a Titan X.

2. 2nd tier - also usually a 9 series but could be an 8. typically sometimes an has most of what the flagship has except the backlight is edgelit not full array. very expensive. In PC terms this is a GTX1080.

3. 3rd tier - probably an 8 series has some minor compromises on the tech from the above but is usually still pretty close. also edgelit. With most TV manufactures 10 bit panels stop after this model. manageable price but on the higher side. usually best bang for your buck. In PC terms this is a GTX1070.

Once you dip below that 3rd tier all the high end features are usually gone. This is where you get manufactures cutting corners and pulling BS and outright lying to consumers.

Samsung
1 = KS9800
2 = KS9500
3 = KS8000/8500

Sony
1 = ZD9
2 = X94D
3 = X93D

LG (With LG no LCD has FALD and you lose 10 bit after #2)
1 = G/E/C/B 6 OLED
2 = UH95
3 = UH85

Vizio (If you not rocking a P series you aren't 10 bit all their TV series above D have FALD though)
1. 2016 P series
2. M series
3. E series
 

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I have the 930d. I love it.

I just wish one setting worked for all things. When hdr gaming I have to adjust from my hdr gaming settings to regular gaming settings. O what a bother to constantly keeping things looking elite and epic.

Trying to find the best codor calibration program. This thx shyt won't allow you to chrome cast and change settings at the same time.

Don't like alot of these custom settings on reputable sites. Lookin all dim and dark. I need gaming settings and fukk gaming mode. I'll take input lag
 
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You doing God's work fam. I did my research for months to ensure that I got what I needed. I got the Samsung KS8500 as I found it was about the best priced to quality screen that had the least amount of latency for gaming that fit the full bill HDR 4K criteria.
Is the 8500 the curved one? That is the one I've been looking at myself but I'm unsure if I should get a curved TV. Seems like a gimmick that I see no need for

8000 is the exact same without a curve correct?
 

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How do y'all like this model so far?

Curved breh, do you like it better than the flats?

Flat breh, did you peep the curved before buying?
I don't have any experience with curved TVs, but from what I've seen, it's more of a "for show" type thing more than anything else, as one would expect. You can't go wrong with either, if you're trying to decide between the KS8000/8500 (same quality). It's just on you if you feel like you want the aesthetics, and less money in your pocket.:manny:
 

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How do y'all like this model so far?

Curved breh, do you like it better than the flats?

Flat breh, did you peep the curved before buying?

Flat breh...lol:mjlol:...I'll slap fire out you.:ufdup: I saw the curved ones in store. I actually never even viewed my particular model in store directly before, just models that were similiar and close to it. I read up on all this before buying.

Anywayz, the TV is the fukking bizness man. Wife was initially trying to bug out to me about what I'm spending my money on:heh: and so much bread on electronics and all this rah rah about tv being a "non-necessity":comeon: and "could've spent more on the kids Christmas gifts or for the house":sitdown::childplease:...she shut the fukk up and rescinded all that jazz the moment she saw the first mere 1080P image on there. shyt hit her like
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shyt is so fukking pristine clean.:ohlawd::ahh: Man, the 'The Get Down' in 4K looks so fukking real...that it looks surreal...and unreal, at the same damn time. Games look and run just utterly, buttery, flawlessness. The only caveat to it versus some of those higher end models was the edgelit that @winb83 was speaking on. I do notice it with black levels in near total black screens, but this particular model had about the lowest input latency to have near high levels of IQ as those higher end models (and over pretty much all others that have better latency) and was significantly less money than most of those. Like @winb83 said, it's the best bang for your buck really.
 

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In the LCD world it goes like this:
1. Flagship TV - probably a 9 series model number. has all the bells and whistles and almost always has full array local dimming which means the backlight is evenly lit across the whole TV from an array behind it. ridiculously expensive in PC terms this is a Titan X.

2. 2nd tier - also usually a 9 series but could be an 8. typically sometimes an has most of what the flagship has except the backlight is edgelit not full array. very expensive. In PC terms this is a GTX1080.

3. 3rd tier - probably an 8 series has some minor compromises on the tech from the above but is usually still pretty close. also edgelit. With most TV manufactures 10 bit panels stop after this model. manageable price but on the higher side. usually best bang for your buck. In PC terms this is a GTX1070.

Once you dip below that 3rd tier all the high end features are usually gone. This is where you get manufactures cutting corners and pulling BS and outright lying to consumers.

Samsung
1 = KS9800
2 = KS9500
3 = KS8000/8500

Sony
1 = ZD9
2 = X94D
3 = X93D

LG (With LG no LCD has FALD and you lose 10 bit after #2)
1 = G/E/C/B 6 OLED
2 = UH95
3 = UH85

Vizio (If you not rocking a P series you aren't 10 bit all their TV series above D have FALD though)
1. 2016 P series
2. M series
3. E series

I dont know what all that is for:yeshrug:

I was pointing out that by the specs in the op

To be listed, the television must support the HDR10 standard at the time of writing (not including "upcoming firmware updates"), must support 10-Bit color (as defined by Rtings, which includes native 10-bit panels without 8-bit banding and 8-bit panels with dithering to create 10-bit colors), and of course have a 4K panel

Damn near every 2016 set meets this standard. They just arent on the list because they hadnt been updated when the article was written.

Tldr: Article is old and should include more tvs
 

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Wasn't even gonna upgrade to 4K yet but the prices were crazy on Black Friday.

Picked up two Samsung 8500's 65 and 55 inch.

Always liked the picture and curve but my 1080 sets were too new without enough 4K content said fukk it though.
 

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I dont know what all that is for:yeshrug:

I was pointing out that by the specs in the op



Damn near every 2016 set meets this standard. They just arent on the list because they hadnt been updated when the article was written.

Tldr: Article is old and should include more tvs
Current as of sept 10, 2016




Format: Tv model: HDR rating (HDR ratings are from rtings.com): Input Lag

LG E6: 8.4: 34.2 ms
LG B6: 8.3: 54.3 ms
Samsung KS9500: 8.2: 20.5 ms
Samsung KS9000: 8.2: 20.5 ms
Samsung KS8000: 8.2: 20.9 ms
Samsung KS8500: 8.2: 23.1 ms
Vizio P series; P50/55/65/75-C1 2016: 8.2: 19.1 ms
Sony X930D: 8.1: 52.3 ms
LG UH8500: 7.8: 26.9 ms
Samsung JS8500: 7.7: 36.9 ms
LG EG9600: 7.7: 50.1 ms
Samsung JS9000: 7.7: 23.6 ms
LG EF9500: 7.6: 53.5 ms
Sony X850D: 7.5: 34.6 ms
Sony X850C: 7.5: 39.5 ms
Sony X800D: 7.5: 33.3 ms
Vizio M Series 2016: 7.4: 19.8 ms
LG UH7700: 7.4: 33.9 ms
Sony X900C: 7.6: 35.1 ms
Samsung KU7000: 7.0: 24.7 ms
Samsung JS7000: 7.0: 27.4 ms
Samsung KU6300: 6.8: 19.8 ms
LG UH6100: 6.6: 39.7 ms







It's not including more cause they don't fit the criteria. Check rtings.com list for more explanation and results.

But no... there are not more tvs on this list and that's why I made the thread


You getting an upgrade to HDR is not the same as having it built in from scratch. They doing some software upgrades but the hardware tech on your tv hasn't changed or improved


They are out here fooling the public with this bullshyt legal talk, and there are a few websites giving you the FACTS
 
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