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somebody on reddit was asking this question a while back and i was intrigued enough to go along with it:

JAY‐Z Setlist at Webster Hall, New York

how did you guys react when Jay did his 2019 Webster Hall concert line-up featuring Nas? Did you guys pick up the subtleties that Jay performed 4 tracks going at Nas back to back with Some People Hate, Don't You Know, Come and Get Me, and People Talkin' at the beginning of the concert?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/jay-z-doing-a-b-sides-2-show-to-re-open-webster-hall-on-april-26-for-“day-1-fans”.703371 I was looking at this thread and nobody addressed those subliminal records

When Ether came out on December 4th, 2001 as a single (Jay's birthday), Jay did 2-3 rebuttal songs before he scrapped together Supa-Ugly with the help of Irv Gotti, borrowing bars from past cormega disses, etc

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m1yQrfaxeM

1) Don't You Know had an original version where Jay was going at Nas directly before Jay cleaned up (most of) those diss lyrics for the Paid in Full OST

JAY-Z – Don't You Know Lyrics | Genius Lyrics but when you read the updated lyrics, it still had subliminal diss references to Nas

2) People Talkin was Jay's 2nd or 3rd attempt to rebuttal Ether and went on the "Unplugged" 2001 album to compete with Nas' album release date of Stillmatic on Dec 18th 2001

3) Come and Get Me was Jay mocking Nas' Come Get Me, when Nas first found out that Carmen was with Jay.

4) Some People Hate was on blueprint 2 and had the weakest subliminals going at Nas..every song of Jay mentioning "Son" was a subliminal jab at Nas from Show You How to 99 Problems

^for all 4 songs, you have to read the rapgenius annotations to get all the subliminals, about cutting off the nose off the sphinx, etc

...people were joking on other websites that Nas was waiting backstage while Jay was performing those disses live, some for the first time, and I guess Jay had to vent out his frustrations IN fukkING 2019 -- people blame other fans for holding grudges against rappers for so long, what if those grudges are still coming from the source? with jay still competing against Nas on release dates, etc

...Jay is the type of person who would diss 2Pac "live in concert" after Pac had died just to get a chip off Jay's shoulder, so I don't put anything past Jay's pettiness to perform diss songs when the subject of those disses is sitting backstage Here's The Story Behind Jay Z's 'Scathing' Never-Released 2Pac Dis

even for jay's b side concert, jay had to throw in his joe budden subliminal diss with pump it up every time just to prove a point about his catalog

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHcSNQJfwVE
 
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somebody on reddit was asking this question a while back and i was intrigued enough to go along with it:

JAY‐Z Setlist at Webster Hall, New York

how did you guys react when Jay did his 2019 Webster Hall concert line-up featuring Nas? Did you guys pick up the subtleties that Jay performed 4 tracks going at Nas back to back with Some People Hate, Don't You Know, Come and Get Me, and People Talkin' at the beginning of the concert?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/jay-z-doing-a-b-sides-2-show-to-re-open-webster-hall-on-april-26-for-“day-1-fans”.703371 I was looking at this thread and nobody addressed those subliminal records

When Ether came out on December 4th, 2001 as a single (Jay's birthday), Jay did 2-3 rebuttal songs before he scrapped together Supa-Ugly with the help of Irv Gotti, borrowing bars from past cormega disses, etc

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m1yQrfaxeM

1) Don't You Know had an original version where Jay was going at Nas directly before Jay cleaned up (most of) those diss lyrics for the Paid in Full OST

JAY-Z – Don't You Know Lyrics | Genius Lyrics but when you read the updated lyrics, it still had subliminal diss references to Nas

2) People Talkin was Jay's 2nd or 3rd attempt to rebuttal Ether and went on the "Unplugged" 2001 album to compete with Nas' album release date of Stillmatic on Dec 18th 2001

3) Come and Get Me was Jay mocking Nas' Come Get Me, when Nas first found out that Carmen was with Jay.

4) Some People Hate was on blueprint 2 and had the weakest subliminals going at Nas..every song of Jay mentioning "Son" was a subliminal jab at Nas from Show You How to 99 Problems

^for all 4 songs, you have to read the rapgenius annotations to get all the subliminals, about cutting off the nose off the sphinx, etc

...people were joking on other websites that Nas was waiting backstage while Jay was performing those disses live, some for the first time, and I guess Jay had to vent out his frustrations IN fukkING 2019 -- people blame other fans for holding grudges against rappers for so long, what if those grudges are still coming from the source? with jay still competing against Nas on release dates, etc

...Jay is the type of person who would diss 2Pac "live in concert" after Pac had died just to get a chip off Jay's shoulder, so I don't put anything past Jay's pettiness to perform diss songs when the subject of those disses is sitting backstage Here's The Story Behind Jay Z's 'Scathing' Never-Released 2Pac Dis

even for jay's b side concert, jay had to throw in his joe budden subliminal diss with pump it up every time just to prove a point about his catalog

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHcSNQJfwVE


In all fairness its not like Nas has taken this lying down. Nas dissed Jay on JAY’S song from Jay’s own ALBUM after signing to Def Jam lol.
 

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Didn’t Jay do another concert with Nas that was supposed to be a Netflix thing but hasn’t come out yet? They were both in suits, and did multiple songs together.
 

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Nas used similar lyrics here:





and here:





Do people on thecoli track when Nas recycle some of his lyrics? It's interesting to see when Nas do recycle given that some of his fans don't pay attention to all of the songs that he's featured in


 

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I mean yeah, I had a whole thread about this, but more for sequel songs, yet I kept track of when Nas recycled lines, stanzas, or verses


Thats a pretty comprehensive list. I never kept track of it but I did notice that during his freestyles.
 

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I mean yeah, I had a whole thread about this, but more for sequel songs, yet I kept track of when Nas recycled lines, stanzas, or verses



I remember I had the Platinum Edition on Illmatic playing (that's was my first time hearing Illmatic) and I thought the It Ain't Hard To Tell Remix was just the same lyrics til;

What's a beat if the rap don't click
I spit rhymes like I'm sick, dying loss in a pit
The only way I can escape is by vocals

Verbalize a strife
Stabbin' ears like a knife hood like

The Prophet of the gutter
Lyrics are silk mega butter
I flow never stutter


:wow: That second verse was dumb :wow:

 

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I remember I had the Platinum Edition on Illmatic playing (that's was my first time hearing Illmatic) and I thought the It Ain't Hard To Tell Remix was just the same lyrics til;

What's a beat if the rap don't click
I spit rhymes like I'm sick, dying loss in a pit
The only way I can escape is by vocals

Verbalize a strife
Stabbin' ears like a knife hood like

The Prophet of the gutter
Lyrics are silk mega butter
I flow never stutter


:wow: That second verse was dumb :wow:


When Nas did Illmatic with the symphony in 2018, I always wanted him to use the updated verses from Illmatic 10th anniversary (or put all 4 verses in)...the 10th anniversary updated lyrics for "the world is yours" was fire too

Nas – The World Is Yours (10th Anniversary Remix) Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
 
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