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All things considered, this is still going to be ass. The first one was mid ass hell (this is a convo folks aint ready for and I dont care about the stats).

I rock with Coogler but I dont think these type of films are his thing.
Lmao mid as hell? Definitely was one of the best marvel films of the time.
People really forget that everyone wanted the first one to fail. Even marvel didn’t fully believe in it. That movie did extremely well for all things considered
Marvel mid is ant-man 1,2 captain marvel
 

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Lmao mid as hell? Definitely was one of the best marvel films of the time.
People really forget that everyone wanted the first one to fail. Even marvel didn’t fully believe in it. That movie did extremely well for all things considered
Marvel mid is ant-man 1,2 captain marvel

yall cant even have an honest convo on this, so I'm not going to waste my time.

There are people who think Applebees is good food too.
 

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yall cant even have an honest convo on this, so I'm not going to waste my time.

There are people who think Applebees is good food too.
What makes it mid besides the effects in your opinion?
It’s because usually every time someone says the film is mid they don’t have a good reason
 

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yall cant even have an honest convo on this, so I'm not going to waste my time.

There are people who think Applebees is good food too.

BP 1 is a good story (on paper) but a bad piece of cinematic art.

Maybe that is where you guys disagree.

Like artistic impression vs technical merit in skating.

Peronally I think it has the best dramatic turn in the MCU but I think the direction was poor and the technical structure of the film was lacking.

GIven Marvel's lack of oversight in recent projects I think BP2 is at risk of being a bad movie.
 

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yall cant even have an honest convo on this, so I'm not going to waste my time.

There are people who think Applebees is good food too.
If you think it was mid that's fine but there is no "correct analysis". Many found the movie very enjoyable and that's fine to.
 

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BP 1 is a good story (on paper) but a bad piece of cinematic art.

Maybe that is where you guys disagree.

Like artistic impression vs technical merit in skating.

Peronally I think it has the best dramatic turn in the MCU but I think the direction was poor and the technical structure of the film was lacking.

GIven Marvel's lack of oversight in recent projects I think BP2 is at risk of being a bad movie.
Coogler is a shytty director now? :mjlol:
Yo, were you posting this opinion in the BP 1 after the OG dropped? Just curious.
 

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Black Panther is an upper middle of the pack MCU movie that will get better and better as they drop more duds like Eternals and Multiverse of Madness
 

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Coogler is a shytty director now? :mjlol:
Yo, were you posting this opinion in the BP 1 after the OG dropped? Just curious.

of course.

you know me breh. consistent like train smoke ..
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I'm with you in that BP1 was mid but the ideas behind it made it cool. Black cast, great cinematic look and the whole BP mythology.

But really the movie itself wasn't so gripping or rewatchable. Cap Marvel and Ant-man 1, 2 are somewhere between mid to ass. as well.
 

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All things considered, this is still going to be ass. The first one was mid ass hell (this is a convo folks aint ready for and I dont care about the stats).

I rock with Coogler but I dont think these type of films are his thing.
This^

While I appreciated the movie for what it was, I was also disappointed as a T'Challa fan. Coogler watered him down and gave his best traits to Killmonger and Shuri, to the point where casuals/ normies now think killmonger is a better hero for black people. The Russo brothers did a better job with him
 

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This^

While I appreciated the movie for what it was, I was also disappointed as a T'Challa fan. Coogler watered him down and gave his best traits to Killmonger and Shuri, to the point where casuals/ normies now think killmonger is a better hero for black people. The Russo brothers did a better job with him
Killmonger is a better hero for black people. Black Panther was always low key :mjpls: in the comics.

It's just impossible to get past the notion of a black utopia that is also the most powerful nation on earth, and yet doing nothing about the slave trade or racism for all these year. No getting around that, Which is why i was always a bigger fan of Luke Cage. Coogler did address that in the movie though, and T'challa's arc was (i believe) intended for him to take a more militant progressive approach going forward instead of the conservative Wakanda first approach they had been doing all along.
 

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This^

While I appreciated the movie for what it was, I was also disappointed as a T'Challa fan. Coogler watered him down and gave his best traits to Killmonger and Shuri, to the point where casuals/ normies now think killmonger is a better hero for black people. The Russo brothers did a better job with him

after the emotional stuff wears off, you realize thew movie was mid lol. Lotta dudes dont wanna admit it cause they feel this is our one shot of having more than 5 black people in a major budget film but still. Also had the worst CGI I've seen in a recent marvel flick. And yeah Russo did damn good and his Civil War presence had me hyped, but in BP seem like he was second fiddle to damn near everyone else
 

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after the emotional stuff wears off, you realize thew movie was mid lol. Lotta dudes dont wanna admit it cause they feel this is our one shot of having more than 5 black people in a major budget film but still. Also had the worst CGI I've seen in a recent marvel flick. And yeah Russo did damn good and his Civil War presence had me hyped, but in BP seem like he was second fiddle to damn near everyone else
Or maybe they just don't agree and enjoyed the movie. This constant barrage of re-reviewing the first movie isn't going to make other people reconsider how much they enjoyed the first in here.
 

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There is a saying that a bad ending or bad ending fight can ruin a movie for a person.

Well that 3rd act CGI fight must have really fukked with some brehs overall enjoyment of the film. Cause yall sound bogus as well when the first two acts were superbly well crafted. Waterfall fight is peak MCU in terms of story, action, themes and directing.
 
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