Official MCU Black Panther 2 Thread

[Json]

Bingo. White ppl done created a crabs in a barrel conundrum that ppl are unfortunately falling into, instead of thinking outside of.

i.e. Instead of strategically demanding justice for Storm or demanding they expedite Spectrum (who is more powerful than Storm, led the Avengers in the 80s, and is the little black girl in the Captain Marvel movie.. who was recast as an adult and a support character in the Wanda-Vision tv show)... ppl and their half-assed knowledge of the comics are instead obsessed with turning the BP mantle into a revolving token negro mantle.

"Black boys had one turn, now it's time for black girls!"

Oh, so then what happens to the black boys in the meantime? You dumb mutherfukkers.

What shouldve been happened is putting pressure on Disney/Marvel to expand the number of black superhero leads, specifically for Storm/Spectrum/Riri Williams to have solo movies.

That's the win-win for all black kids.

This is nonsense.

Im not saying swapping genders isn’t overdone and for the wrong reasons but this is the one time a female lead does make sense.

The whole arc of BP was atoning for his family’s wrong doing and stepping into the world. T’Challa and Shuri are the only two members with that personal burden.

Bringing in another character would undercut the atonement story cause they didn’t do anything.

So either recast or do Shuri.

 

[Bigbigguy]

In the comics she became the Black Panther after Doom almost Killed Tchalla. Lets not create that the of vibe here. They are just going off the comic. Nothing wrong with want Shuri to hold it down.

Only problem with this is it would be way too soon to introduce that angle plus Tchalla still needs to be alive.

Shuri was really only BP for like 12 issues.

Making her the lead will never work.

The main reason they even made her that was give T'challa something else to do and new story ideas

 

[Primetime]

This is nonsense.

Im not saying swapping genders isn’t overdone and for the wrong reasons but this is the one time a female lead does make sense.

The whole arc of BP was atoning for his family’s wrong doing and stepping into the world. T’Challa and Shuri are the only two members with that personal burden.

Bringing in another character would undercut the atonement story cause they didn’t do anything.

So either recast or do Shuri.

Nah nygga, your response is nonsense since I didn't say nothing about "bringing in another character."

What's nonsense is talking about movie consistency then acting like Shuri being BP would be "consistent" with the movie.

That shyt doesn't "make sense" with the movie.

 

[Primetime]

Shuri was really only BP for like 12 issues.

Making her the lead will never work.

The main reason they even made her that was give T'challa something else to do and new story ideas

I'll add that the whole point of making her MCU version a fashion-centric geeky non-fighter who cowers at M'Baku's mere glance, and who Ramonda didn't even consider the herb for (went straight to Nakia, who went straight to M'Baku) is because they have a completely different trajectory for her than in the comics.

But most ppl who argue for her don't know this bc they ain't comic heads. Just quick Google researchers.

In the MCU, if shyt ever happened to TChalla, they would turn to M'Baku to rule.

 

[HipHopStan]

I thought about this interview a few minutes after the announcement of his death, but I didn't feel like posting it. Last year we were all laughing at this interview, but it totally has a new meaning now.

 

[jetflyinglimousineriding]

If anyone's interested, some free Digital Black Panther Comics on Comixology
Search - Comics by comiXology

 

[Young Bishop]

If anyone's interested, some free Digital Black Panther Comics on Comixology
Search - Comics by comiXology

Black Panther Hudlin #33 and #34

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Man...... I hope they don’t kill T’Challa man.

I know it hurts but just recast him. I don’t want Black Panther T’Challa the character to be dead in the MCU

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

In the comics she’s young, maybe about 18-19 when she takes up the mantle.


The issue with Black Panther is that throughout the comic run there is only ever TWO black panthers. T’Challa and Shuri, and Shuri was only Black Panther for a relatively short time. The comics even had a huge war that retconned the continuity to allow T’Challa to take back the throne.


Also T’Challa has relatively few “sidekicks”, no mentees or apprentices. So there is no one that you can pluck from the canon comics that would make sense as Black Panther. He’s never even had any children that were within canon. So its not like a Batman situation where you have dikk Grayson, Tim Drake, and countless Batman scions.


So really the hard decision comes down to recasting or passing the mantle to Shuri. Now in the comics Shuri wasn’t much of an inventor/scientist, she was a warrior who was rather hot blooded and emotional. the Shuri from the movies is more like Q to T’Challa’s Bond, so there would have to be some broad leaps in character development to get her to that stage.


Which is why I feel like recasting at this point will be what Marvel ultimately does. Creating a brand new character that isn’t based off the lore of the canon would probably bring MORE backlash than recasting. Batman, Spiderman, hell even Blade have been recast and audiences understood.

The MCU takes creative license so they dont always follow the comics- Killmonger is a perfect example- they made him a relative to further a storyline. With that being said- the MCU can recast, pass to Shuri or just make up a character to keep the BP property going- all we doing is speculating but using the comics as an indicator is useless.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Considering he didn’t tell anyone at Marvel about his sickness, Marvel don’t deserve or shouldn’t take any flack for recasting which is what they should do.

IMO Marvel should follow the same formula they did originally, reintroduce BP in a Cival War (maybe Spidey 3) type movie this time without much fanfare, (“hey T’challa what are you doing here?”), start a new BP centric storyline in that movie and follow that with BP2. That gives you enough time to lessen the blow.

BP made too much money and the cast was too close knit for them to just bring in a new T’Challa. I don’t even think Coogler would agree to it.

I think whenever they do release BP2, the beginning of the movie should strart with T’Challa’s funeral. Have a hologram of him in the after life with the elders, and introduce another relative who his the same age as Shuri.

the way they portrayed Shuri in the MCU, will make it hard to take her seriously as Black Panther. She didn’t do anything to earn it. I think the movie should introduce another relative and show his reluctance to take on the responsibility until something happens to wakanda which forces him to.



they should let me write the treatment


If you remember the original black panther was born in the mist of tribes fighting for control. Since there wouldn’t be a black panther since killmonger destroyed all of the heart shaped herbs, the same conflict will arise again.


T’Challas spirit will guide the chosen one to a new herb, giving the New BP even greater abilities

 

[Optimus Prime]

BP made too much money and the cast was too close knit for them to just bring in a new T’Challa. I don’t even think Coogler would agree to it.

I think whenever they do release BP2, the beginning of the movie should strart with T’Challa’s funeral. Have a hologram of him in the after life with the elders, and introduce another relative who his the same age as Shuri.

the way they portrayed Shuri in the MCU, will make it hard to take her seriously as Black Panther. She didn’t do anything to earn it. I think the movie should introduce another relative and show his reluctance to take on the responsibility until something happens to wakanda which forces him to.



they should let me write the treatment


If you remember the original black panther was born in the mist of tribes fighting for control. Since there wouldn’t be a black panther since killmonger destroyed all of the heart shaped herbs, the same conflict will arise again.


T’Challas spirit will guide the chosen one to a new herb, giving the New BP even greater abilities

The cast was so close Chad didn’t tell anyone from the cast that he was sick including Coogler

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

The cast was so close Chad didn’t tell anyone from the cast that he was sick including Coogler

that doesn’t prove a thing.

up until a week before he died, he thought he was going to make a full recovery. He had cancer before filming black panther and more people outside the cast didn’t know.

had he made a full recovery he probably was going to tell the world. Michael B Jordan, Winston Duke and Lupita were at his funeral which was small/private.

honestly, if I knew had had a short time to live, I don’t know how many people I would tell. It’s not something anyone can speak on until they are in that position.

but as far as the franchise is concerned, it would be impossible to duplicate they magic they made collectively by recasting the character. The way Chadwick portrayed the character can’t be and shouldn’t be carbon copied by another actor. Heath Ledger planned on reprising the joker with Nolan but that was never completed after he died and if shouldn’t have.

 

[Optimus Prime]

that doesn’t prove a thing.

up until a week before he died, he thought he was going to make a full recovery. He had cancer before filming black panther and more people outside the cast didn’t know.

had he made a full recovery he probably was going to tell the world. Michael B Jordan, Winston Duke and Lupita were at his funeral which was small/private.

honestly, if I knew had had a short time to live, I don’t know how many people I would tell. It’s not something anyone can speak on until they are in that position.

but as far as the franchise is concerned, it would be impossible to duplicate they magic they made collectively by recasting the character. The way Chadwick portrayed the character can’t be and shouldn’t be carbon copied by another actor. Heath Ledger planned on reprising the joker with Nolan but that was never completed after he died and if shouldn’t have.

They should not try to “duplicate the magic” anyway
Hollywood is littered with bad sequels because these studios thought they could duplicate the first movie
Just make a good story and imo killing T’Challa is a bad idea
We don’t need another lost relative to come into Wakanda like a white savior movie to become Black Panther especially since that was pretty much the plot of the first movie but it’s gonna be better this time?

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Recast

How many actors played batman?

To those who don't want to recast, y'all just never liked T'challa the character.

Chadwick passed T'challa did not.

Mbaku is not protagonist material and is a poor representation of Africans. What African uses a hammer? He's just the big black brute stereotype that keeps getting pushed but always flops. Mbaku entire costume make no sense he dresses like it's cold in Africa. He's more inspired by Vikings then Africans.


Shuri would be disrespectful to the franchise they already nerfed T'challa. But shuri gets to be intelligent and a martial artist?

Also without T'challa black panther as a franchise turns from a black event to a black women event.

T'challa was the only normal black male. Every other character of importance and dignity is a black women. Mbaku is just the stereotypical big angry black guy shyt not even accurate nikkas are docile. Killmonger was a villain, and so was the other dude.

All the black female characters are the done with respect but the only remaining black guy is a stereotype and a clone of Luke Cage corny ass.

That's the selfish shyt from black feminists as usual.

I expect that shyt from white people but from other black people that shyt pisses me off.

Recast with a younger actor. Stop promoting old flabby and sick black actors and we won't have this problem

negged you racist fakkit

 

[ultraflexed]

If they pass the torch to shuri
Ima need marvel to push through "blue marvel"