Official MCU Black Panther 2 Thread

[Ziggiy]

How old was she in the comics when she became the Black Panther because she is sixteen in the movies? That is not believable no matter what happens in the comics, and people are not even into comics is why Black Panther made $700,000,000 in America. They never follow the comics to a tee, so that is really silly reasoning. You can scream about the comics all you want, but the iteration of her in the movies is not conducive to that whatsoever.

In the comics she’s young, maybe about 18-19 when she takes up the mantle.


The issue with Black Panther is that throughout the comic run there is only ever TWO black panthers. T’Challa and Shuri, and Shuri was only Black Panther for a relatively short time. The comics even had a huge war that retconned the continuity to allow T’Challa to take back the throne.


Also T’Challa has relatively few “sidekicks”, no mentees or apprentices. So there is no one that you can pluck from the canon comics that would make sense as Black Panther. He’s never even had any children that were within canon. So its not like a Batman situation where you have dikk Grayson, Tim Drake, and countless Batman scions.


So really the hard decision comes down to recasting or passing the mantle to Shuri. Now in the comics Shuri wasn’t much of an inventor/scientist, she was a warrior who was rather hot blooded and emotional. the Shuri from the movies is more like Q to T’Challa’s Bond, so there would have to be some broad leaps in character development to get her to that stage.


Which is why I feel like recasting at this point will be what Marvel ultimately does. Creating a brand new character that isn’t based off the lore of the canon would probably bring MORE backlash than recasting. Batman, Spiderman, hell even Blade have been recast and audiences understood.

 

[Tryna Makit]

I for one will be mad if Shuri dont take up the Mantle....with all the Feminist shyt poppin now and how big a deal they made the "girl power" scene in endgame its a no-brainer

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I for one will be mad if Shuri dont take up the Mantle....with all the Feminist shyt poppin now and how big a deal they made the "girl power" scene in endgame its a no-brainer

i'm a woman and i'd personally prefer BP not go the female route yet. there's not many black superheroes who are leads, the BP was just getting started and i understand the importance of seeing a black man be a superhero for little black boys. and like i said earlier in the thread, they've fukked up the importance of storm in x-men movies, but that's always the female black superhero i felt should get a leading role/solo movie first.

this is only my opinion, as some people will feel staying true to the comics is more important (i dont think so given these movies have a following that far surpasses the people who actually read/know the comic lore and won't complain if they deviate), but i understand that side too.

 

[pez]

This is going to be weird.

MCU is bringing in underworld characters like Blade, Ghost Rider and Mephisto. I would start Black Panther 2 with T'Challa is just gone. Wakanda is on a man hunt for him. Following rumors. They recruit Dr. Strange to help out explore the universe. Strange can't find him but gets a lead about a someone that can find lost souls.

Strange initially mistakes Ghost Rider for Red Skull but then discovers Ghost Rider is a different being. Ghost Rider has access to seek the underworld for lost souls. He finds Blade who has a lead on Mephisto who he caught leaving the underworld to kidnap souls. They need a soul close to T'Challa to find him. Shuri goes to the Panther Soul World to seek out the old Black Panthers for help. She intends to go to T'Chaka. She's shocked to find Killmonger! Killmonger was a legitimate king of Wakanda and a Black Panther so he's with the other souls of Panthers. Killmonger agrees to help. Blade, Ghost Rider, and Killmonger ride into the underworld which is a deeper level of the soul world to rescue T'Challa. Strange opens a portal to bridge them through but cannot join them but his cape wraps around Killmonger to join their journey.

They find Mephisto and before they can rescue T'Challa, Mephisto releases T'Challa's soul to be locked in hell. Killmonger is able to catch T'Challa's ethereal hand. Killmonger won't let T'Challa spend eternity in bondage. Killmonger destroys T'Challa lifeforce and T'Challa disappears and you see his spirit fly up into a heavenly portal that Strange's cape is able to open up by spinning like Strange's portal move. T'Challa's spirit is saved but he is no more.

The team has failed but were able to save T'Challa's soul. Killmonger returns to the old Panthers. Ghost Rider and Blade return to their underworld but they now have some new allies and connections with our world. Shuri takes the mantle of Black Panther and she looks rather high tech and a departure from the original Black Panther costumes.

 

[ultraflexed]

Cliffs from black panther 2: wakanda falls/ rise of namor


The movie opens to a wakanda funeral of T'challa who suffered a terminal illness.

Meanwhile Suri has been monitoring activity of the ocean activity which will have ramification on wakanda.

Introduction to the underwater of kingdom of prince Namor

Namor has known about wakanda all along and needs to take there vibranium to launch a full scale attack against the surface world. Now that T'challa has died, wakanda has been greatly weakend.

Suri is named queen of wakanda and assumes the black panther role.

During suri coronation wakanda is hit with a stormed an flooded, during the flood namor and his army invades.

Suri fight bravely as the new black panther but is overwhelmed and no match for namor.

Because wakanda is naturally sheltered from the outside world shuri cannot contact any avengers for assistance she is on her own.


Out of desperation she goes to her hidden lab where there lies a hyperbolic healing chamber for graves wound.

In the hyperbolic chamber in a induced coma lies killmonger, at the request T'challa shuri created enhanced the hyperbolic chamber to heal killmonger who T'challa wanted to give second chance to completely clean the slate of his father's mistake.

Shuri revives killmonger who immediately begins to fight suri, still confused an shocked he is still alive, while fighting shuri explained to killmonger it was T'challa who wanted to save him in hopes to redeem him, she also explains there kingdom has been invaded by prince namor and T'challa has died an she revived him out of desperation.

Shocked by the news of T'challa's death, killmonger stops fighting shuri to fully understand what going on.

Shuri wants killmonger to once again take the herb and visit the ancestral plain, suri performs the ritual on T'challa

This time he sees T'challa, killmonger asks why did he spare his life. T'challa explain the need to wipe the slate clean, and atone for the sins of his father, he also mention that he is kin and their first cousins and there relationship needed to different then there parent. T'challa ask killmonger to assume the role of the black panther and help protect wakanda, and to embrace wakanda as his own.
Killmonger in tears, tells T'challa he wishes they could of grown up together and played together and been there for eachother, and has great regret for his actions. T'challa forgives killmonger and tells him he is now the black panther they embrace.....killmonger returns a new man.



That's all I got

 

[KingofthePenguins]

In the comics she’s young, maybe about 18-19 when she takes up the mantle.


The issue with Black Panther is that throughout the comic run there is only ever TWO black panthers. T’Challa and Shuri, and Shuri was only Black Panther for a relatively short time. The comics even had a huge war that retconned the continuity to allow T’Challa to take back the throne.


Also T’Challa has relatively few “sidekicks”, no mentees or apprentices. So there is no one that you can pluck from the canon comics that would make sense as Black Panther. He’s never even had any children that were within canon. So its not like a Batman situation where you have dikk Grayson, Tim Drake, and countless Batman scions.


So really the hard decision comes down to recasting or passing the mantle to Shuri. Now in the comics Shuri wasn’t much of an inventor/scientist, she was a warrior who was rather hot blooded and emotional. the Shuri from the movies is more like Q to T’Challa’s Bond, so there would have to be some broad leaps in character development to get her to that stage.


Which is why I feel like recasting at this point will be what Marvel ultimately does. Creating a brand new character that isn’t based off the lore of the canon would probably bring MORE backlash than recasting. Batman, Spiderman, hell even Blade have been recast and audiences understood.

I agree with that.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

 

[Ukbrotha]

In the comics she’s young, maybe about 18-19 when she takes up the mantle.


The issue with Black Panther is that throughout the comic run there is only ever TWO black panthers. T’Challa and Shuri, and Shuri was only Black Panther for a relatively short time. The comics even had a huge war that retconned the continuity to allow T’Challa to take back the throne.


Also T’Challa has relatively few “sidekicks”, no mentees or apprentices. So there is no one that you can pluck from the canon comics that would make sense as Black Panther. He’s never even had any children that were within canon. So its not like a Batman situation where you have dikk Grayson, Tim Drake, and countless Batman scions.


So really the hard decision comes down to recasting or passing the mantle to Shuri. Now in the comics Shuri wasn’t much of an inventor/scientist, she was a warrior who was rather hot blooded and emotional. the Shuri from the movies is more like Q to T’Challa’s Bond, so there would have to be some broad leaps in character development to get her to that stage.


Which is why I feel like recasting at this point will be what Marvel ultimately does. Creating a brand new character that isn’t based off the lore of the canon would probably bring MORE backlash than recasting. Batman, Spiderman, hell even Blade have been recast and audiences understood.

I agree. Only way they would give it to Shuri is if Shuri was cast as Lashana Lynch. She would be great warrior Shuri.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

 

[Ukbrotha]

fukk sake.

 

[wire28]

This is going to be weird.

MCU is bringing in underworld characters like Blade, Ghost Rider and Mephisto. I would start Black Panther 2 with T'Challa is just gone. Wakanda is on a man hunt for him. Following rumors. They recruit Dr. Strange to help out explore the universe. Strange can't find him but gets a lead about a someone that can find lost souls.

Strange initially mistakes Ghost Rider for Red Skull but then discovers Ghost Rider is a different being. Ghost Rider has access to seek the underworld for lost souls. He finds Blade who has a lead on Mephisto who he caught leaving the underworld to kidnap souls. They need a soul close to T'Challa to find him. Shuri goes to the Panther Soul World to seek out the old Black Panthers for help. She intends to go to T'Chaka. She's shocked to find Killmonger! Killmonger was a legitimate king of Wakanda and a Black Panther so he's with the other souls of Panthers. Killmonger agrees to help. Blade, Ghost Rider, and Killmonger ride into the underworld which is a deeper level of the soul world to rescue T'Challa. Strange opens a portal to bridge them through but cannot join them but his cape wraps around Killmonger to join their journey.

They find Mephisto and before they can rescue T'Challa, Mephisto releases T'Challa's soul to be locked in hell. Killmonger is able to catch T'Challa's ethereal hand. Killmonger won't let T'Challa spend eternity in bondage. Killmonger destroys T'Challa lifeforce and T'Challa disappears and you see his spirit fly up into a heavenly portal that Strange's cape is able to open up by spinning like Strange's portal move. T'Challa's spirit is saved but he is no more.

The team has failed but were able to save T'Challa's soul. Killmonger returns to the old Panthers. Ghost Rider and Blade return to their underworld but they now have some new allies and connections with our world. Shuri takes the mantle of Black Panther and she looks rather high tech and a departure from the original Black Panther costumes.

 

[Ironman]

I think recasting is unfortunately the best thing to do when they do finally start that film. There's just too much that has to change in order make it work otherwise

 

[Optimus Prime]

Considering he didn’t tell anyone at Marvel about his sickness, Marvel don’t deserve or shouldn’t take any flack for recasting which is what they should do.

IMO Marvel should follow the same formula they did originally, reintroduce BP in a Cival War (maybe Spidey 3) type movie this time without much fanfare, (“hey T’challa what are you doing here?”), start a new BP centric storyline in that movie and follow that with BP2. That gives you enough time to lessen the blow.

 

[Primetime]

i'm a woman and i'd personally prefer BP not go the female route yet. there's not many black superheroes who are leads, the BP was just getting started and i understand the importance of seeing a black man be a superhero for little black boys. and like i said earlier in the thread, they've fukked up the importance of storm in x-men movies, but that's always the female black superhero i felt should get a leading role/solo movie first.

this is only my opinion, as some people will feel staying true to the comics is more important (i dont think so given these movies have a following that far surpasses the people who actually read/know the comic lore and won't complain if they deviate), but i understand that side too.

Bingo. White ppl done created a crabs in a barrel conundrum that ppl are unfortunately falling into, instead of thinking outside of.

i.e. Instead of strategically demanding justice for Storm or demanding they expedite Spectrum (who is more powerful than Storm, led the Avengers in the 80s, and is the little black girl in the Captain Marvel movie.. who was recast as an adult and a support character in the Wanda-Vision tv show)... ppl and their half-assed knowledge of the comics are instead obsessed with turning the BP mantle into a revolving token negro mantle.

"Black boys had one turn, now it's time for black girls!"

Oh, so then what happens to the black boys in the meantime? You dumb mutherfukkers.

What shouldve been happened is putting pressure on Disney/Marvel to expand the number of black superhero leads, specifically for Storm/Spectrum/Riri Williams to have solo movies.

That's the win-win for all black kids.

 

[Primetime]

Considering he didn’t tell anyone at Marvel about his sickness, Marvel don’t deserve or shouldn’t take any flack for recasting which is what they should do.

IMO Marvel should follow the same formula they did originally, reintroduce BP in a Cival War (maybe Spidey 3) type movie this time without much fanfare, (“hey T’challa what are you doing here?”), start a new BP centric storyline in that movie and follow that with BP2. That gives you enough time to lessen the blow.

This is exactly what they should do and whoever they get has to have that public display of buy-in and camaraderie by the BP movie cast. The press tour message should be about honoring Chadwick and continuing the grace and dignity he gave the character, so that it doesn't go to waste.