Official Luka Doncic Will Be A Bust Thread

[SoulController]

"We fight on that lie"

NBA bruhs dont play, fukkin dossiers and backlogs gettin pulled up with every comment

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

To think a nikka who was a Euroleague MVP as a teenager was going to be a bust was some foolish shyt

To think a nikka that was getting locked up by Texas Tech guards would be better is wild retarded
.

This shows that that athleticism talk is just that.... Talk.

Skill>>>>>>

 

[Point Blank]

To think a nikka who was a Euroleague MVP as a teenager was going to be a bust was some foolish shyt

To think a nikka that was getting locked up by Texas Tech guards would be better is wild retarded
.

This shows that that athleticism talk is just that.... Talk.

Skill>>>>>>

These nikkas hip, they just don't want to see anyone thats not AA flourish. Luka hate at this point is just foolish. The kid can ball and will just get better.

Why he's getting hype from the media? He deserves the shyt. NBA players aint praising the nikka because he's white/foreign

You think Dray gives a fukk about that?

 

[#1 pick]

The idea that Trae has more of a chance to be a superstar than Luka is absurd.

Luka is 6'7 point guard who can do it all. Generates space and clean looks with his height. Can back down smaller guards. Doesn't get pushed off his spots by PGs or SGs. Can run PnR and has great vision and passing ability.

But he's limited by his flabbyness?

Meanwhile Trae is 6'2 and is a frail 180lbs soaking wet. He generates no clean looks. Has no go-to move go create space. Has shot so awfully thus far that he seems to have abandoned the 3pt shot altogether recently. His body, energy, and numbers showed signs of wearing down last NCAA season as the year wore on and he hasn't started off hot in the NBA.

Just because Luka started off hot immediately doesn't mean Trae will 100% make it up on the back end. Just cause one guy starts strong doesn't mean the other guy finishes stronger. There isn't any definitive correlation. There is no evidence or reason to believe "Luka is better NOW, but Trae will be better in a couple years."

This idea that Luka has peaked and will only play Fortnite from here on out while Trae is in the gym is dumb af.

Everything about Trae's physical tools and game show that he will be bullied and outmatched by almost every starter at his position. He has no go to moves. He's a sieve on defense (that's a knock against Doncic but I guess for Trae we don't really care). He's not faster than Fox or Westbrook or Wall. He's not as long as Lonzo. He's not as big as Westbrook. Don't even get me started on Curry or Lillard or Kyrie.

He can pass well. But guess what, so can Luka!

I'd ask what about Trae's game leads somebody to believe he can ever eclipse Doncic, but I'd just get vague shytposting. Nothing concrete or objective.

Hawks lost. Keep that pick. Honestly, Mavs should send over another 1st from 2020 just as further compensation.

Basketball reasons

Sit All the Way The fukk Down

Luka ain't got no super elite shyt other than body control, skill and passing. He ain't quick at all. Trae gets to the hole at will. Luka uses a thousand in one body faints and stays on some Manu shyt without the quickness. His ball handling is what's throwing people off. He is an excellent ball handler and that shyt is what's catching them off guard. It's his shot release is low and slower than the NBA average. That's why he is in love with step back, no different than Trae being in love with the deep three because he struggling to the length of the NBA players and his shooting from the hip. Like Mitchell last year and unlike this year, Luka is getting superstar calls. The NBA wants to see him do well this year. It's good for business.

Luka ain't fast, he ain't quick, he can't jump that high although his body control is nice and highly advanced at his age, he ain't long, good SG length but below average SF length and average lateral quickness and while he is fundamentally sound defensively, his low standing reach shows at the 4 defensively and he is bailed out numerous times a night by DeAndre Jordan which is what DAJ does and has does since LAC but that's what is happening.

Both Luka and Trae on the other hand is showing elite playmaking skills with Trae having more advantages due to position and quickness to create for others but Luka at this stage is a better passer. Less mistake prone mentally. Trae wasn't taking every possession seriously but has improved in that area of late. Luka is as a sound a rookie I have seen since Duncan. His turnovers are due to his lack of tools and athletic ability in trying shyt happen. We saw this in Madrid as well but this is an issue that will not go away. He is not gonna get quick or faster with his body type. He doesn't have that shoulder slope like Jordan, Curry, Bagley and Giannis. His body type just doesn't have potential. He is built like a worse Paul Pierce. His genetics while amazing in some areas, hurt him here.

Trae is going to be fine physically. His has innate strength and tremendous body control. He can finish with contact and his tremendous 1v1 ball handling skills. Due to his bigger than norm hand width, it really helps him in palming the rock. Now defensively, his 6'3 winspan and under 8 feet standing reach isn't going to do him any justice. But for his prototype, he isn't asked to be a defensive star or specialist. Just someone who can stay in front of his man and don't get lost on screens. His hand width helps his defense just as much as his good lateral quickness. His focus is where improvement is needed as well as defensive communication.

He don't need to be Fox, Westbrook or Wall. That's not his prototype. Hell, Curry is not his prototype. His prototype honestly is Isiah Thomas and Steve Nash. He clearly is nowhere near as good as them in their prime but as a rookie, he stacks up well to them.

His 19/9/3.5 per36 is elite for a rookie true PG.

CP3 - 16/8/5
Stockton - 11/10/2.5
Kidd - 12.5/8.4/5.8
Payton - 9.4/8.5/4
Curry- 17.4/6/4.4
Nash- 11.2/7.3/3
Zeke- 18.1/8.4/3.1


shyt like this is how I know you need to shut the fukk up. You don't know shyt about shyt when it come to this shyt. I fukking watch most Dallas games. I am extremely knowledgeable on Luka. That's why I am not as high on his ceiling. But that doesn't mean I dont think he is special. I know he is special

 

[42 Monks]

this is pathetic

 

[Codeine Bryant]

While your cling to Per36 for Trae, Luka has actual numbers and averages...

You conveniently don't include the shot percentages for Trae. We all know why.

The shyt you extrapolate for Trae, Luka actually DOES.

The shyt you PREDICT for Trae, Luka is already doing.

You're one of only 3 or 4 morons on this board who thinks Trae will be better.

Your dumbass thought Geno Smith was "black Tom Brady."

Trae Young is the next Steph Curry, right?

Or wait, he's the next Steve Nash?

You shyt on Doncic for his physique and tools and genetics while the guy you cape for is built like a high school JV girl.

What's Trae Young's 3pt PCT?

How many games over 50% shooting does Trae have?

How many points does he average?

How many Rebs does Trae Young get?

Is he even the best PG on the team?

Do you think ANY GM takes Trae over Doncic right now?

Why does Luka make it look easy while Trae Young has to work so hard to generate looks?

Can you answer any of these questions? We already know you don't want to.

You shyt on all of Luka's shortcomings and make nonstop excuses for all of Trae's. Defense doesn't matter for Trae, huh? How convenient. It's obvious how garbage your agenda and bias is. Nobody objectively agrees with you. Nobody.

Don't talk to me about sports again. Delusional ass ATL fan. You're worse than the Rockets fans who think every year is their year.

Go back to making those trash ass NFL Mock Draft and Comparisons threads. They were better than all your posting here.

 

[Reid2Achieve]

this is pathetic

I’m legit floored

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Sit All the Way The fukk Down

Luka ain't got no super elite shyt other than body control, skill and passing. He ain't quick at all. Trae gets to the hole at will. Luka uses a thousand in one body faints and stays on some Manu shyt without the quickness. His ball handling is what's throwing people off. He is an excellent ball handler and that shyt is what's catching them off guard. It's his shot release is low and slower than the NBA average. That's why he is in love with step back, no different than Trae being in love with the deep three because he struggling to the length of the NBA players and his shooting from the hip. Like Mitchell last year and unlike this year, Luka is getting superstar calls. The NBA wants to see him do well this year. It's good for business.

Luka ain't fast, he ain't quick, he can't jump that high although his body control is nice and highly advanced at his age, he ain't long, good SG length but below average SF length and average lateral quickness and while he is fundamentally sound defensively, his low standing reach shows at the 4 defensively and he is bailed out numerous times a night by DeAndre Jordan which is what DAJ does and has does since LAC but that's what is happening.

Both Luka and Trae on the other hand is showing elite playmaking skills with Trae having more advantages due to position and quickness to create for others but Luka at this stage is a better passer. Less mistake prone mentally. Trae wasn't taking every possession seriously but has improved in that area of late. Luka is as a sound a rookie I have seen since Duncan. His turnovers are due to his lack of tools and athletic ability in trying shyt happen. We saw this in Madrid as well but this is an issue that will not go away. He is not gonna get quick or faster with his body type. He doesn't have that shoulder slope like Jordan, Curry, Bagley and Giannis. His body type just doesn't have potential. He is built like a worse Paul Pierce. His genetics while amazing in some areas, hurt him here.

Trae is going to be fine physically. His has innate strength and tremendous body control. He can finish with contact and his tremendous 1v1 ball handling skills. Due to his bigger than norm hand width, it really helps him in palming the rock. Now defensively, his 6'3 winspan and under 8 feet standing reach isn't going to do him any justice. But for his prototype, he isn't asked to be a defensive star or specialist. Just someone who can stay in front of his man and don't get lost on screens. His hand width helps his defense just as much as his good lateral quickness. His focus is where improvement is needed as well as defensive communication.

He don't need to be Fox, Westbrook or Wall. That's not his prototype. Hell, Curry is not his prototype. His prototype honestly is Isiah Thomas and Steve Nash. He clearly is nowhere near as good as them in their prime but as a rookie, he stacks up well to them.

His 19/9/3.5 per36 is elite for a rookie true PG.

CP3 - 16/8/5
Stockton - 11/10/2.5
Kidd - 12.5/8.4/5.8
Payton - 9.4/8.5/4
Curry- 17.4/6/4.4
Nash- 11.2/7.3/3
Zeke- 18.1/8.4/3.1


shyt like this is how I know you need to shut the fukk up. You don't know shyt about shyt when it come to this shyt. I fukking watch most Dallas games. I am extremely knowledgeable on Luka. That's why I am not as high on his ceiling. But that doesn't mean I dont think he is special. I know he is special

Man shut all that long winded shyt up. Trae Young is garbage breh

 

[daemonova]

Luka doncic so good, why they outside the playoffs? The only thing we know for sure on his good he is that the Hawks don't have to wait to get their pick back

 

[jwinfield]

Luka doncic so good, why they outside the playoffs?

 

[#1 pick]

While your cling to Per36 for Trae, Luka has actual numbers and averages...

You conveniently don't include the shot percentages for Trae. We all know why.

The shyt you extrapolate for Trae, Luka actually DOES.

The shyt you PREDICT for Trae, Luka is already doing.

You're one of only 3 or 4 morons on this board who thinks Trae will be better.

Your dumbass thought Geno Smith was "black Tom Brady."

Trae Young is the next Steph Curry, right?

Or wait, he's the next Steve Nash?

You shyt on Doncic for his physique and tools and genetics while the guy you cape for is built like a high school JV girl.

What's Trae Young's 3pt PCT?

How many games over 50% shooting does Trae have?

How many points does he average?

How many Rebs does Trae Young get?

Is he even the best PG on the team?

Do you think ANY GM takes Trae over Doncic right now?

Why does Luka make it look easy while Trae Young has to work so hard to generate looks?

Can you answer any of these questions? We already know you don't want to.

You shyt on all of Luka's shortcomings and make nonstop excuses for all of Trae's. Defense doesn't matter for Trae, huh? How convenient. It's obvious how garbage your agenda and bias is. Nobody objectively agrees with you. Nobody.

Don't talk to me about sports again. Delusional ass ATL fan. You're worse than the Rockets fans who think every year is their year.

Go back to making those trash ass NFL Mock Draft and Comparisons threads. They were better than all your posting here.

Because per36 has been indicative for where rookie PGs more than anything are. We see that Stockton didn't play a lot of minutes but he was a walking assist with scoring value as a rookie. We saw that but he saw he wasn't ready as a rookie for bigger minutes. It puts things in perspective when looking at rookies.

Luka is the man. Right now, he is a top 50. 45-50 player on impact as a rookie. Do you know how impossible and insane that is. That's Tim Duncan shyt but Tim Duncan had all the measurables and gifts to be a dominant generational player. We just don't see that in Luka. That's the issue. Potential. Not his now. GMs are paid to be right in the future. If we go by the Giannis draft, he was the worst player in the NBA that season. He sucked. Now he is a top 5 player in the NBA 6 years later. Let's me smart about this. No one is saying the man can't play but static who is not here to defend his terrible opinion in the first place. Most of the others just hate his hype. I am starting to hate his white fans and constant dumb nikkas who jumping on his back to shyt on Trae like 42 c00ns.

I watch the games. I know Trae can shoot. It's the coverages and his embarrassing shot selection and now that he is getting used of the coverages and we pulled that green light from his ass, his shooting percentages are starting to look good, especially in the half court setting which was Traes weakness early this year. Trae still has a lot of work to do on changing his form. He shoots from the hip. Unless you 7ft with a 7'6 wingspan like JJJ, you ain't getting that shyt off in the NBA with ease. That's just an improvement area. In all fairness, we didn't see good shooting percentages from Zeke, Stockton, Wall, Rose, CP3 or Kemba at this stage either and they didn't see none of the coverages and advanced schemes that Trae has seen this season.

The shyt you extrapolate for Trae, Luka actually DOES.

Huh?

Not sure how many games over 50% shooting he has, you tell me? Not one of the things I am looking for. I know he can finish, I know he can shoot with range and I know he can get to where he wants on the court more times than not.

You dumb fukk, I been saying Luka has been in the top 50 on all my metrics and that he is NBA ready and the most NBA ready since Tim Duncan you non reading stupid ass nikka. I clearly think Doncic is better and I've said this for months before and after the draft process. Hell, I wanted Luka if Bagley and Ayton was gone. shyt, ask @AVXL, @Sly Cookin, @Steezy and the homies. I also said Trae is in the bottom half of the 400+ NBA players right now. That doesn't sound like someone who thinks Trae is better than Luka. I said. He will be better long term and have more impact on the game. That he will he easier to build around long term. I think Trae ceiling for his prototype is higher than Doncic for his prototype. I've said nothing else other than that. Stupid ass reading is fundamental ass nikka. You should have did book it as a kid.

nikka, some of your questions are dumb as shyt. Yes we know his stats nikka. If I took the time to find and post his per36, what makes you think I wouldn't know the rest. You dumb nikkas are stupid as hell. Retarded ass nikkas, who raised you?

Why bring up Geno Smith as a prospect? We all been wrong when it comes to NFL QB prospects and right as well. shyt isn't an exact science or their would be no busts. It would be one thing if I seen Geno as a rookie after watching games and said that but I didn't. I called Russell Wilson, Baker Mayfield, Cam, Winston, Kaep, Luck, Goff, and so many others. But you could talk about Mallet, Locker, Smith, Kellen Moore, RG3, etc. At no point did I say they were great as pros or potential stood. Some of these guys were 1st round picks. Let's not act like I was the only one high on them. At this point, you reaching for the straws.

No, I don't think he is similar to Steph outside of range. I've said that for MONTHS during his time at OU. I've always compared him to Nash and now Zeke as well. That's his prototype.

Trae and Luka both have to work for looks and from all of the games I watch, Trae gets to spots better than step back shorty aka Fake Harden. Luka is getting clear open looks. In part due his passing from a position people who defend are not usually expecting it from on a night to night basis and Luka is tremendously consistent. You have to keep your eyes on him all game. He isn't rookie like. He is NBA vet like. Trae is learning the pro game. Luka has a masters in it. This is where experience and being a 4th year pro comes handy.


nikka babble...

More nikka babble iced off with nikka splanin'.

Stay on topic nikka. Talking to you is like talking to a ADHD kid without ritalin

 

[#1 pick]

Man shut all that long winded shyt up. Trae Young is garbage breh

 

[#1 pick]

Luka doncic so good, why they outside the playoffs? The only thing we know for sure on his good he is that the Hawks don't have to wait to get their pick back

The west is tough. He is playing exceptionally well. He is playing his part. But while the Mavs are good. Most of the teams in the west are very good, some great. Just a tough year. The NBA is at an all time high in terms of quality right now. The BBIQ could be better but the skill and pace with the talent is next level right now.

 

[Point Blank]

Luka doncic so good, why they outside the playoffs? The only thing we know for sure on his good he is that the Hawks don't have to wait to get their pick back

Huh?

They looking outside because the whole team struggles on the road. DSJ injuries has hurt as well.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

cause yall fukked up another draft pick

First Marvin Williams over CP3, Shelden Williams over Brandon Roy, now Trae over Luka

Got you praying and writing dissertations because Trae is a bum. Acie Law all over again