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I figured I'd post this here because I didn't feel like looking for the actual thread and figured it'd be good reading material

About That Open Letter To Warner Bros…
This part that Feraci mentions:
hint: just because George Miller will be credited as a producer on Justice League doesn't mean he had a single thing to do with the movie. He didn't
Is something I have gotten into so many arguments with people about. Its like no one understands how those weird producer credits work in Hollywood. Miller hasn't had any say in what goes into a Superman movie since the whole Nic Cage debacle but his deal still gets him a producer credit.
Its also why we will probably see Zack Snyder and his wife's name as producers on several DC movies long after his time as director of Justice League has ended.
But salty nerds will still point to that as a reason for them to be angry because they will assume that Snyder credited as a producer equals Snyder having some influence over how the movie is made.
 

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This part that Feraci mentions:

Is something I have gotten into so many arguments with people about. Its like no one understands how those weird producer credits work in Hollywood. Miller hasn't had any say in what goes into a Superman movie since the whole Nic Cage debacle but his deal still gets him a producer credit.
Its also why we will probably see Zack Snyder and his wife's name as producers on several DC movies long after his time as director of Justice League has ended.
But salty nerds will still point to that as a reason for them to be angry because they will assume that Snyder credited as a producer equals Snyder having some influence over how the movie is made.

You're speaking to one of his points in the article: People don't understand how hollywood works. Even the people who cover it don't understand how it works. A production credit means nothing. Wes Craven still gets an executive production credit on the Scream series even though he's no longer with us. It's just a way to give him props and cut his estate a check. George Miller getting a credit is just a nice way of sliding him cash
 

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I realized I conflated George Miller and John Peters in my first comment. The point still stands though because Peters was given a producer credit on Man of Steel.
 

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You're speaking to one of his points in the article: People don't understand how hollywood works. Even the people who cover it don't understand how it works. A production credit means nothing. Wes Craven still gets an executive production credit on the Scream series even though he's no longer with us. It's just a way to give him props and cut his estate a check. George Miller getting a credit is just a nice way of sliding him cash
Isn't that the exception not the rule tho? If you have a production credit you most likely had something to do with you know the production? Fans are right to look at the credits and assume that.
 

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Isn't that the exception not the rule tho? If you have a production credit you most likely had something to do with you know the production? Fans are right to look at the credits and assume that.
Not really...a straight up Producer credit goes to the guy who actually produced the movie but then you get into the murky realm of the Executive Producer and there are all sorts of reasons why someone gets an EP credit that have nothing to do with anything you see on the screen.
This article explains it about bu going into how Jon Peters was still going to make out like a bandit with his EP crdit for Man of Steel despite not having anything to do with the movie:
'Man of Steel': How Jon Peters Could Earn $15 Million -- for Doing Nothing
 

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Isn't that the exception not the rule tho? If you have a production credit you most likely had something to do with you know the production? Fans are right to look at the credits and assume that.

Nah because a production credit is vague as hell. Some people raise money and have a say. Some get the credit just because its contractual. Some had creative input. Some get a check. Which is why he said no one knows how it works. Fans aren't right to assume it if they don't understand how it works because you're just guessing without any real baseline of knowledge other than hearsay which is never a good move. Like the article @Jello Biafra just posted about John Peters...dude hadn't worked on a super man flick since 97 and he got a credit on man of steel just because of a contractual obligation. Stan Lee gets production credit on marvel movies all the time but has said he doesn't see much action from them if any

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/05/15/how-much-did-stan-lee-make-on-the-avengers

Matthew Vaughn got a production credit on days of future past but thats just because he contributed to the story initially but for all we know, those parts of his story could've been jettisoned in the final product, thus making his credit just a formality as far as we know.
 

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Not really...a straight up Producer credit goes to the guy who actually produced the movie but then you get into the murky realm of the Executive Producer and there are all sorts of reasons why someone gets an EP credit that have nothing to do with anything you see on the screen.
This article explains it about bu going into how Jon Peters was still going to make out like a bandit with his EP crdit for Man of Steel despite not having anything to do with the movie:
'Man of Steel': How Jon Peters Could Earn $15 Million -- for Doing Nothing
So it's more often than not or a 50/50 split that a producer didn't do shyt? Really?!
You guys are pointing out isolated examples.
 

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So it's more often than not or a 50/50 split that a producer didn't do shyt? Really?!
You guys are pointing out isolated examples.

The examples are just to point out the fact that no one outside of hollywood really has it nailed down what a producer does in every capacity and what their purpose is. Are there examples different from those two? Of course but the larger point remains
 
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