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You left out avengers 1, Ironman 3 and Spider-Man Far from home.

Joker did over a billion and won every award there is to win... does any of this matter if I don't personally enjoy the movie? No, I'm selfish.. :pachaha:

But I did enjoy Joker, it was great.

This thread ain't nearly done yet... 4 hours. 4 episodes. We just gettin' started in here :mjlit:
 

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I hate to keep derailing this thread but it seems you are missing the point tha the movie is seen as underperforming. To clarify it means it did not do what it was meant to do, prior to the film coming out it was hailed as a historic movie event that couldn’t be missed. Batman V Superman together on the big screen at last. Hell even the first weeks earnings were through the roof, then came the second week when word of mouth got around:francis:. No one is saying 800 million is anything to scoff at just that it was below the earning potential of these two juggernauts coming together.

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Those expectations were unrealistic
BVS introduced 2 never before seen major characters with no prior film (batman, wonder women)...with only MOS as the film to latch on

In comparison all of the main characters in the avenger had a standalone movie before there team of...so of course they do better.

At that time the DCEU gameplan was off
 

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[QUOTE="darryl, post: 38815936, member:

Those expectations were unrealistic
BVS introduced 2 never before seen major characters with no prior film (batman, wonder women)...with only MOS as the film to latch on

In comparison all of the main characters in the avenger had a standalone movie before there team of...so of course they do better.

At that time the DCEU gameplan was off

Says you but experts who carry out primary and secondary research on these things said otherwise. Batman is Batman and has had several movies, his a well proven sell. Hell as someone here mentioned the joker did a billy on his own having never had a “set up movie” and on just the fact his the joker and the movie was fantastic. That’s on his own yet Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman...:beli:
 

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Says you but experts who carry out primary and secondary research on these things said otherwise. Batman is Batman and has had several movies, his a well proven sell. Hell as someone here mentioned the joker did a billy on his own having never had a “set up movie” and on just the fact his the joker and the movie was fantastic. That’s on his own yet Batman,
Superman and Wonder Woman...:beli:

The joker movie was rated R so that automatically peeked the interest of the audience.

The three batman movies prior were nolan movies with a different batman so it cant be compared

Aquaman did a bill after DC stopped meddling with the edits.

Had BVS ultimate edition made the big screen it definitely would of hit one billion mark
 

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The joker movie was rated R so that automatically peeked the interest of the audience.

The three batman movies prior were nolan movies with a different batman so it cant be compared

Aquaman did a bill after DC stopped meddling with the edits.

Had BVS ultimate edition made the big screen it definitely would of hit one billion mark
:russ:Ok...
 

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[QUOTE="darryl, post: 38815936, member:

Those expectations were unrealistic
BVS introduced 2 never before seen major characters with no prior film (batman, wonder women)...with only MOS as the film to latch on

In comparison all of the main characters in the avenger had a standalone movie before there team of...so of course they do better.

At that time the DCEU gameplan was off
If people were excited about Superman then adding Batman and WW would be a bonus. MOS wasn’t good so adding stuff on top wasn’t going make people care.

Kinda hard not to see that once WW was pulled away she suddenly does well and gets a sequel. Same with Aquaman. The only common element is under Snyder these characters aren’t appealing to wider(Some people like it) audiences.
 

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If people were excited about Superman then adding Batman and WW would be a bonus. MOS wasn’t good so adding stuff on top wasn’t going make people care.

Kinda hard not to see that once WW was pulled away she suddenly does well and gets a sequel. Same with Aquaman. The only common element is under Snyder these characters aren’t appealing to wider(Some people like it) audiences.

I would say the boxoffice would have been bigger if
Wonder women would have dropped before BVS.

Some People dont like the edgy superman, they want the Christopher reveees superman but that was tried in 2006 superman returns and although I liked the movie it didn't do numbers.

At least snyder's superman gives a arc to evolve and far more confliction with his morale and when an when not to get involved or go to far.

Alot of people say Affleck's batman is the best version they have seen, even over nolan's batman and I agree, Affleck's batman fights like his life depends on it, he brings the fight, while still being the world's greatest detective and strategist, even as bruce Wayne you could see batman written all over his face but without being obvious, remember bruce Wayne is the mask batman is who bruce truley is...I didn't see that with Keaton or nolan's batman who almost always was on the defense, and Keaton verson was a brawler but his bruce Wayne was poorly portrayed cause bruce was never that emotional
 

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I would say the boxoffice would have been bigger if
Wonder women would have dropped before BVS.

Some People dont like the edgy superman, they want the Christopher reveees superman but that was tried in 2006 superman returns and although I liked the movie it didn't do numbers.

At least snyder's superman gives a arc to evolve and far more confliction with his morale and when an when not to get involved or go to far.

I mean you keep dancing around the obvious conclusion. A good Superman wouldn’t need a WW to drop first cause Supes would be the main draw.

Aquaman and WW aren’t using cameos in their sequels or origin movies.

But Ezra Miller is getting two Batmans and Cyborg? The Flash people didn’t like? See a pattern?

I have said my peace about Snyder’s inability to character build and inconsistencies. I don’t think it has anything to do with Reeves or darkness.
 

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I mean you keep dancing around the obvious conclusion. A good Superman wouldn’t need a WW to drop first cause Supes would be the main draw.

Aquaman and WW aren’t using cameos in their sequels or origin movies.

But Ezra Miller is getting two Batmans and Cyborg? The Flash people didn’t like? See a pattern?

I have said my peace about Snyder’s inability to character build and inconsistencies. I don’t think it has anything to do with Reeves or darkness.

So you didnt like the Affleck's batman character?
And what didn't you like about superman's character?

The flash is getting cameo's in flashpoint because that's what the story requires, the flashpoint is a justice league movie, your suppose to get the atlantean war with the amazoneans, and bruce waynes father Tomas wayne as batman, and a area 54 lab rate superman who has no idea who is he really is.

Of course there not telling that verson of flashpoint, but there going to use it to reboot the DCEU
 

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So you didnt like the Affleck's batman character?
And what didn't you like about superman's character?

A house built on a bad foundation is a bad house. No amount of fancy brick or appliances will fix it.

I didn't have a problem with the way Affleck portrayed a grim, cynical Batman.

But the central conflict based on a cynical Batman who lets Leto Joker and Harley live, after killing a Robin, but must kill the Superman who is saving crews on boats, hurricane victims, and else without a word despite being on the other side of a river for both cities is.......

No investigation of what happened, just maybe he might be bad one day based on a nightmare is enough to kill him but nothing about the actual villains killing people. Terrible characterization.

The flash is getting cameo's in flashpoint because that's what the story requires, the flashpoint is a justice league movie, your suppose to get the atlantean war with the amazoneans, and bruce waynes father Tomas wayne as batman, and a area 54 lab rate superman who has no idea who is he really is.

Didn't the Flash tv show adapt the story with none of those elements? Just focusing on the character development of Barry Allen?

Civil War the movie is a pail imitation to the Earth spanning comic. Winter Soldier was a vast conspiracy by the Red Skull to reshape reality turned into a small government thriller. Adaptations don't have to use much if any of the elements from the comics.

It's not like the multiverse needs to be setup now. Give Barry a movie to world-build but they don't trust the character's ability to pull audiences on his own.
 

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But the central conflict based on a cynical Batman who lets Leto Joker and Harley live, after killing a Robin, but must kill the Superman who is saving crews on boats, hurricane victims, and else without a word despite being on the other side of a river for both cities is.......
I actually feel you but his central argument was this cat aint even human, not that it justifies it. He saw him as a "thing".
 

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I actually feel you but his central argument was this cat aint even human, not that it justifies it. He saw him as a "thing".
Except the reason he was scared wasn’t cause he was alien but because of the damage he caused during a fight.

Similar to things he does every night when he’s shooting up buildings and running down bad guys.

So he didn’t even bother to think about the message from Zod threatening the world in MOS and not the guy hiding among them who hadn’t done anything except try to stop him as the culprit of the damage?

There was a series called Birthright where Luthor faked a Krypotonian invasion to frame Superman. That I would have bought 100%. Bruce while investigating what happened confuses the real threat of Darkseid with Luthor’s Kryptonian invasion.
 
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