Official 'JUSTICE LEAGUE' Thread

[Benefited]

Time to rebuild, time to plan.

I need some OmegaBeam fukkery

By rebuild do you mean to start over?

 

[Norrin Radd]

New Report Details The Warner Bros. Drama Behind 'Justice League'

This month, Justice League made its way into theaters, and fans of the DC Extended Universe were dismayed to see the film get mixed reviews. The long-awaited movie was meant to be an undeniable success for Warner Bros. but die-hards fans have done little else but question what went down behind-the-scenes with the project.Now, a new report from The Wrap is breaking down what sources have said about Justice League and its "Frankenstein" debut.

Not long ago, Umberto Gonzalez and Tim Molloy posted an in-depth exposé about Justice League. The film, which had the lowest opening of DC Entertainment’s most recent movies, can apparently pinpoint its lackluster reception to a few key factors.

According to The Wrap, members of Warner Bros. did approach the studio’s president Greg Silverman about removing director Zack Snyder from Justice League. The call came after Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was met with critical backlash and a fierce box office drop after its promising opening. The site’s source says DC President Jon Berg was ultimately sent to oversee Justice League for almost a year after budget concerns made higher-ups antsy.

The report goes on to say Silverman was “quite harsh” to Snyder about Batman v Superman’s flop, but he was given another go at Justice League.

“They were already in deep prep on ‘Justice League’ and it would have cost a fortune. There’s stickiness to a director because there’s so much cost to unstick him,” the insider explained. “Warners is a studio that almost to a fault always wants to project strength.”

As work continued on Justice League, Warner Bros. is said to have stood by its original premiere date once reports went live about the company merging with AT&T. To move the release of such a film would have been viewed as a weakness, and Justice League had a lot to prove to audiences and business insiders. Joss Whedon was then brought in to give the movie more levity under Snyder’s blessing, but things took a turn when tragedy struck the director. Snyder’s daughter died following a suicide attempt, and he ultimately chose to leave the project to focus on his loved ones as in-studio pressure continued to mount on Justice League.

"It stopped being a good situation on any level,” The Wrap's source described.

With Justice League now in the hands of Whedon, post-production and re-shoots on the film were quickly scheduled to get things in order. The Wrap’s source went so far as to say Warner Bros. executives Toby Emmerich and Kevin Tsujihara didn’t wish to push the movie’s release date as it might have risked their annual bonuses. The time-crunch ultimately forced the film together loosely, and its re-shoots even forced Superman's Henry Cavill to have his mustache digitally removed in post.

So far, it seems Warner Bros. has declined to comment on The Wrap’s piece nor were statements given by any executives.


The sting of Justice League is still one fans feel keenly, and they continue hurting over its messy construction for years to come. Films like Wonder Woman have shown audiences what it looks like when Warner Bros. does its DC movies justice, and the DCEU will strive to follow after director Patty Jenkin’s example. Matt Reeves is currently signed on to oversee The Batman while James Wan finished Aquaman this year. Jenkins herself will return for Wonder Woman’s sequel, and Shazamentered pre-production with David F. Sandberg on its side. Fans are putting their faith in these directors to steer the DCEU in the right direction and not stumble over the pitfalls which derailed Justice League.

 

[Sensitive Christian Grey]

By rebuild do you mean to start over?

Nah not really. JL is established now (rough but flat foundation), so I think movies for the time being can afford to be standalones, which I hope build to something

 

[Benefited]

Nah not really. JL is established now (rough but flat foundation), so I think movies for the time being can afford to be standalones, which I hope build to something

I disagree,based on this movie outside of Wonder Woman who do we really want to see a standalone movie from?This movie wasn't bad,but I think were at the point now where you know the next one will probably suck if they don't quit while their ahead. But maybe this is my hate for Zack Snyder talking. Now if they get rid of him I'm all ears,you have to at least make a major move somewhere at this point. Rather it be a recast of one or more of the heros,or just removing Zack.

 

[Sensitive Christian Grey]

I disagree,based on this movie outside of Wonder Woman who do we really want to see a standalone movie from?This movie wasn't bad,but I think were at the point now where you know the next one will probably suck if they don't quit while their ahead. But maybe this is my hate for Zack Snyder talking. Now if they get rid of him I'm all ears,you have to at least make a major move somewhere at this point. Rather it be a recast of one or more of the heros,or just removing Zack.

People will see a standalone for anyone, at the end of the day they just have to be crowd pleasing and well written. I mean to the GA I don't feel the character is that important.

But then again the problem is deeper than Zack. It's WB, I don't know if the article above mentions it but JL was released when it was so that these guys could get their bonuses on time. With JL disappointing, Zack is pretty much gone, but a root problem is still there

 

[GunRanger]

Time to rebuild, time to plan.

I need some OmegaBeam fukkery

Darkseid should be JL3. JL2 should be the LoD. Lets leave the world ending stuff alone for a while. It would nice.to have more realistic consequences again


Lex
Deathstroke
Joker/Harley ( for the love of.god no face turn)
Cheetah
Black Manta
Black adam

 

[R=G]

Darkseid should be JL3. JL2 should be the LoD. Lets leave the world ending stuff alone for a while. It would nice.to have more realistic consequences again


Lex
Deathstroke
Joker/Harley ( for the love of.god no face turn)
Cheetah
Black Manta
Black adam

People like cheering for Harley Quinn...She had probably more Halloween costumes than anyone last year.

 

[Clark Wayne]

Even Campea now saying WB should straight up reboot. and he saw it 6 times.

 

[lutha]

after catching up on the thread, all i'm say is:

i understand and get there will be comparisons, but cats need to stop going to a dc film expecting to see a marvel film, then getting upset when it's not....and vice versa....

 

[Bryan Danielson]

My brother @lutha it’s not that simple or cut and dry.







Discuss

Martha

 

[lutha]

My brother @lutha it’s not that simple or cut and dry.







Discuss

Martha

i admit i didnt listen to those vids...one of those is 40+ mins about some shyt i care nothing about so, hell naw lol....i dont care whether people that dont work for wb think the movies are successful or not....the only reason i care if wb thinks so is cause it'll determine if we get more movies....anyway, that's besides the point i was making...

the point i was making and why i think it's that simple: i'm just going off what people are saying...most of the comments i see/hear are basically people saying 'marvel did it this way, dc shouldve done it that way'...ex: origin stories for every character to lead up to to a big event that has been the over reaching plot in all the movies....while marvel has done it damn well that way, and i've enjoyed it, doesnt mean that dc has to do it that way....i actually like them having the big event then showing the fall out in the individual movies....which goes with them following the comics to set up their movie universe, the same way marvel followed the comics to set up theirs....and as a fan of the comics/characters, that's all i ask...i dont want marvel movies with dc characters, the same way i dont want dc movies with marvel characters....but if you listen to people, it seems they want the former....

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Just seen this shyt. I thought it was dope. Honestly I thought it was better than WW and the last Avengers movie.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

i admit i didnt listen to those vids...one of those is 40+ mins about some shyt i care nothing about so, hell naw lol....i dont care whether people that dont work for wb think the movies are successful or not....the only reason i care if wb thinks so is cause it'll determine if we get more movies....anyway, that's besides the point i was making...

the point i was making and why i think it's that simple: i'm just going off what people are saying...most of the comments i see/hear are basically people saying 'marvel did it this way, dc shouldve done it that way'...ex: origin stories for every character to lead up to to a big event that has been the over reaching plot in all the movies....while marvel has done it damn well that way, and i've enjoyed it, doesnt mean that dc has to do it that way....i actually like them having the big event then showing the fall out in the individual movies....which goes with them following the comics to set up their movie universe, the same way marvel followed the comics to set up theirs....and as a fan of the comics/characters, that's all i ask...i dont want marvel movies with dc characters, the same way i dont want dc movies with marvel characters....but if you listen to people, it seems they want the former....

Na I get you and I’m not surprised you didn’t for the long one. I guess I can cuz I’m at work, I listen to radio, podcast or etc all day in piece in my office.

But when you get a chance I think they are great vids to listen to. One guy is CLEARLY a DC fan (he mentioned several times he saw JL 6 Times) but he speaking some hard truths.

This was equivalent to a lot of the conversation going on in here that you may have just caught up with.

Like buddy said at this point it really has less to do with Marvel and probably more to do with good will being loss due to fans tired of something that’s not up to par

Martha

 

[prophecypro]

Didnt hate it as much as I thought.
Also I keep reading its made 500 mil overall globally so it is really a flop almost 2 weeks in?

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Also I keep reading its made 500 mil overall globally so it is really a flop almost 2 weeks in?

Depends on if you think some of the movies this year were/are considered flops. Cuz that’s where a lot of that “flop talk” is coming from as least here.

If peeps was calling some of those movies flops and this is tracking or doing significantly worse...... then how is this not a flop?

Martha