but not everyone knows it was chopped and screwed. That’s my point. The general audience doesn’t know that shyt nor do they care. Even tho I think the directors cut shyts on the original and makes it a better film it’s still the same vision that people weren’t feeling. Tinkering around the edges and adding more scenes doesn’t change that.
there are plenty of movies cut the fukk up in the editing bay. Look at jaws for instance. But if the audience is feeling the tone of what they get then none of that matters to them at the end of the day because they won’t be able to tell and won’t care.
To assume giving them the three hour version would’ve changed fortunes is a hell of an assumption
And this is my problem with people using this new version of Justice League, and the Ultimate cut of BvS. Just throwing extra runtime at shyt is not a cure-all, and ultimately shouldn't be.
If you absolutely need three to four hours to tell your story every single time, that means you probably need to work on telling your story more effectively. I watched the Ultimate cut of BvS, and while it's much better and I enjoyed it, I still wouldn't go as far as saying that it's a good movie. The problem, even with the extra runtime, is the same as the theatrical cut. The movie tries to cover far too much ground, and the tone is such that it struggles to make either Superman or Batman the character the polar opposites they're supposed to be, and make the viewer choose or identify with one over the other. No amount of extra scenes was going to fix that, since it's a fundamental issue for most people.
If WB was disappointed by Man of Steel's numbers then they must have been smoking crack in their boardrooms.
The only metric they had to go on when it came to a Superman movie was what Superman Returns did and MOS ended up doubling the box office of Superman Returns while having a budget that was like $50 million less.
So a film about a character that hadn't been well received on the big screen in decades being expected to do Nolan Batman numbers was basically WB setting themselves up to fail.
Yeah, DC (really, Warner Bros) weren't thinking about any of that. They saw that The Dark Knight Rises had just done over a billion, and Marvel had just shown that they could cash out using characters that weren't hot at the time (people conveniently forget that Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor were looked down upon at the time, and people thought Marvel were crazy for trying this without Spider-Man, the X-Men, or at least the Fantastic Four). DC just assumed, and still assume really, that their top characters were more ubiquitous, and they could just walk into the same system.
