Official Judas And The Black Messiah Thread

[Ribbs]

Looks good

 

[steadyrighteous]

I've never understood people's porn parody levels of thinking when it comes to casting film and television.

People say shyt like "they don't look enough like X" or "they don't sound enough like Y" as if that's what makes a good performance. Like someone who looks more like what you've seen or what you imagined is more important than the person's ability to, you know, learn and deliver lines and convey emotion etc.

There's probably 3-5 people on Earth who are good enough as actors and have enough heat to help the movie get financed to this level and had time to film it when everybody else who was involved was ready and wanted to actually do it - because you'd be surprised who you think should would or could do XYZ but really doesn't want to.

Trailer looks dope. Can't fukking wait. End of rant.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

I wonder of the letters mafia gonna twist this some kinda way. I'm sure it will be 1 gay character. Smh

You see a certain actor/character (he's well known) behind Kaluuya in the thumbnail


Based on how he's dressed its safe to assume that possibility. Although gotta see the film to truly judge.

 

[NaijaProdigy Redux]

Kaluuya looks like he’s in his bag

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

“I’m well aware of the debate around British actors playing American Black, iconic figures,” King said during a virtual panel attended by Variety. “But I was born in America, my family is Caribbean and I have a South African name so I am, literally, emblematic of a diasporic way of thinking.

“Kidnapped Africans ended up all around the world,” King added. “We have a lot more in common than people think, in terms of our experience and trying to overthrow white supremacy.”

“The Panthers, ideologically, were very international,” he explained. “So I can’t imagine there would be an objection. Maybe there would be, but I didn’t go into this thinking there would be.”

“There is a legitimate question concerning people in the community: will the actor colonize that?” Hampton Jr added. “And we would have and do hold them to a standard of respecting and being able to relate to the legacy of Chairman Fred, and not just with Daniel’s character.”

The American activist said they took the actors to various locations in Chicago where his father organized to see if they could “grasp” the group’s revolutionary politics, and believes the film addresses “the needs of the Black community, [and] particularly colonized communities in general.”

King wanted Hampton Jr on set every day to ensure they were doing his father’s and the Black Panthers’ legacy justice while also wanting to create a film that would have the audience question their position on “the capitalist, cowardly” O’Neal, and the “socialist, revolutionary” Hampton.
“We can attach judgment to both of those ideologies, but I think most people kind of actually fall somewhere in between,” the writer-director said. “You want to make a movie where the audience watches it and comes away questioning, ‘Which ancestor am I?’”

Coogler jumped at the opportunity to produce this movie after King called him up with the offer. The pair had become friends after showing their directorial debuts — King’s “Newlyweeds” and Coogler’s “Fruitvale Station” — at the Sundance Film Festival in 2013. Once Coogler had finished on Marvel film “Black Panther,” he, his wife Zinzi and MACRO co-producer Charles King were raring to go.

“When [Shaka] pitched the project to me, I was just kinda blown away. Chairman Fred Hampton is somebody whose life work, and the story of his assassination, has been relevant since the day [it] happened and only continues to become more relevant with context,” Coogler said. “But I also think that Shaka’s point of view, and how he wanted to tell the story, was also something that’s extremely relevant, as well.”

King admits he could have written in more female characters than the supporting roles of Deborah Johnson (now known as Akua Njeriand), played by Dominique Fishback, and a fictional character played by Dominique Thorne.
“We could have done a better job of having more powerful roles for the women,” the filmmaker said. “We have two major ones. They definitely have a presence in the movie and the job that they did is truly incredible.”

'Judas and the Black Messiah' Director Defends Casting Daniel Kaluuya - Variety

 

[wire28]

The that opening line accent wasnt very good. However, the rest were fine to me. I can see it being so jarring that it just stays with you tho.

Yeah I mean it’s still first day for me. It just definitely caught my attention. Also maybe it’s the editing of the trailer but lakeith is gonna get way more play than I thought he was initially. Which I am here for.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

thelucasbros
Verified
@thuku_ explicit references to Mao and the MPLA (and many more). Fred was a Marxist. We don’t shy away from his ideology.

 

[Kaypain]

Yo Daniel is about to crush this

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Ryan Coog lookin like you he bout to put up back to back chips

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I fukk with Kaluuya, amazing actor. Should def be an ados actor playing this.

Do you think an ADOS should be allowed to play the role if they were never a Black Panther and didn't themselves grow up in segregation? What if they didn't major in pre-law like Hampton did? If they're an outspoken Trump/Biden supporter, should they still get the role or should it go to someone else? What if they're rich? Or stupid?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I wonder of the letters mafia gonna twist this some kinda way. I'm sure it will be 1 gay character. Smh

I'm guessing you ain't gonna like this:

"We haven't said much about the homosexual at all but we must relate to the homosexual movement because it's a real thing. I know through reading, and through my life experience, my observations, that homosexuals are not given freedom and liberty by anyone in the society. Maybe they might be the most oppressed people in the society."

CHAPTER THIRTY-FOUR: A Rainbow in Black: The Gay Politics of the Black Panther Party on JSTOR


or this:

or especially this:

(1970) Huey P. Newton, “The Women’s Liberation and Gay Liberation Movements” •

 

[steadyrighteous]

I'm guessing you ain't gonna like this:

"We haven't said much about the homosexual at all but we must relate to the homosexual movement because it's a real thing. I know through reading, and through my life experience, my observations, that homosexuals are not given freedom and liberty by anyone in the society. Maybe they might be the most oppressed people in the society."

CHAPTER THIRTY-FOUR: A Rainbow in Black: The Gay Politics of the Black Panther Party on JSTOR


or this:

or especially this:

(1970) Huey P. Newton, “The Women’s Liberation and Gay Liberation Movements” •

Please tell me you’ve posted this in The Hurt Locker (TLR) before

 

[valet]

I'm guessing you ain't gonna like this:

"We haven't said much about the homosexual at all but we must relate to the homosexual movement because it's a real thing. I know through reading, and through my life experience, my observations, that homosexuals are not given freedom and liberty by anyone in the society. Maybe they might be the most oppressed people in the society."

CHAPTER THIRTY-FOUR: A Rainbow in Black: The Gay Politics of the Black Panther Party on JSTOR


or this:

or especially this:

(1970) Huey P. Newton, “The Women’s Liberation and Gay Liberation Movements” •

Yes I disagree with most (not all) of that.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Please tell me you’ve posted this in The Hurt Locker (TLR) before

Nah, never knew about it before, only looked it up just now cause of @valet's comment. Was just peeping to see if there were any gay Panthers on the level of a Bayard Rustin or some shyt, and all that stuff from Huey popped up right from Google.

You can have fun trolling TLR if you want, I already told Brooklyn that I'm done with that forum and the Coli until they get better mods. It's just a trash heap of alt-right incels, fake militants, conspiracy theorists and trolls now.

 

[Json]

Come a long way

Left: when you first date a white girl

Right:After white girl breaks your heart