Official Judas And The Black Messiah Thread

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I thought the movie was way more emotional than some of y’all are giving it credit for. It was just done in an understated way

The convo with the Panther’s mom in the kitchen, Fred’s speech after getting out of jail, O’Neal breaking down while giving Fred the drink, Deborah’s reaction to hearing the gunshot and that final shot of the real O’Neal with the text that he killed himself right after were all emotional scenes IMO
Yeah I don't get that at all, I felt emotion all through this especially the kitchen scene and the ending. Even the scene where the FBI were asking for the apartments blueprints.
 
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Dope fukkin film.
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Just watched this without seeing the trailer or reqding anything.

7/10

Weak in a few departments that would have made it a great film. A bit too stale and heartless.
 

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I just finished watching. It was a good movie I think and kept my attention well.

I been meaning to read the book on Fred Hamptons assassination for awhile now so I’m prolly gonna have to revisit this after. And while I did feel emotion plenty times throughout the movie I feel like it is fair to say they could’ve delved deeper than they did. The part at the end where dude talks about armchair militants and shyt like he didn’t help take down Fred Hampton is a contradiction they dont really deal with in the movie. He was somewhat conflicted on them killing Fred but he was never really that smug about it IN the movie.

And while I get people being mad it focused more on the rat than Fred, at the same time I think they told a pretty interesting story even if the movie doesn’t do the best job of getting that across. Yeah dude got Fred killed and yeah fukk him for that but dude who did you could say was taken advantage of too. The FBI preyed on a young dude facing jail time and offered him freedom for doing some horrible shyt. Not defending him but it’s an interesting perspective atleast on paper.

I’m not well versed in all of Fred Hamptons views but it’s not like they made him into the sanitized version of MLK. Him actually saying socialism did surprise me. Hopefully people don’t see this movie and think it sums up any of the people in here though because it’s just a Hollywood movie. It could never truly do them 100% justice. Hopefully people see it and get some kind of interest in learning about these leaders further. :manny:



Like I said I don’t know enough to really comment on how much of his politics were left out but the tweet responding to noname sums up my thoughts on the film as of rn.
 

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Also I been seeing people comparing this to Black Klansmen. While I think that’s an enjoyable film too they were nowhere near as flagrant in that joint. Atleast at the FBI guys were portrayed as POS here. :hubie:

didn’t they straight up not mention that dude in black klansmen didn’t just work on operations infiltrating the klan??

it was a bit comical at times how many times they got played though. This man lakeith straight up left during a shootout and nobody asked any questions ? :picard:

I can see an argument that they kinda look like fools.

my opinions on this joint are way more mixed than I thought at first :jbhmm:
 
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The movie is called JUDAS and the BLACK MESSIAH.

I dunno what y'all expected, but the title spoke exactly what this movie is about which is a comprehensive account to what COINTELPRO did involving with the dismantling of the Black Panther movie and how they were able to assassinate Fred Hampton.

The movie is dope to me. But if you came to expect some personal, humanizing, intimate bullshyt about Fred Hampton OUTSIDE of being a revolutionary mind, leader and activist... then it's your fault trying to seek expectation that was never hinted in the trailer or the title of the film. The premise always been about an informant by the FBI helping to infiltrate the Panthers and take down Hampton. And that's exactly what was shown. It's silly to me when people complain over shyt that never was intended for the movie.
My only issue is they made the rat have a sympathetic story line. It made him seem like he was against all the shyt he was doing . He wasn’t even facing a long sentence. We all know that wasn’t true. His documentary clip he doesn’t even sound the slightest bit apologetic,
 

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Saw the late night showing here in Hawaii it was good definitely kept my attention. Was good to see how the city of Chicago was divided in terms of territory. Very informative if you haven’t done any research into who Fred Hampton is and what he stood for and why.
 
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