Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

[fact]

Joaquin Phoenix might be the best actor alive today.. this shyt gone slap

He’s a good/great, but last I checked DDL is still alive.

 

[fact]

This trailer was dope as fukk

 

[DlAMONDZ]

So there's a rumor on DCEULeaks that says:

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Thomas Wayne is Arthur Fleck's dad

 

[Jello Biafra]

Seven months to go, seven months... :stewartsigh:

That is a hella ridiculous take.

 

[Jello Biafra]

So there's a rumor on DCEULeaks that says:

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Thomas Wayne is Arthur Fleck's dad

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I remember reading a spoiler that said Thomas Wayne wasn't his dad but his crazy mom lies and tells him that Thomas Wayne is his pop because she is fixated on the Wayne family.

 

[morris]

BLASSIC INCOMING

No Batman in it though?

 

[chico25]

That is a hella ridiculous take.

I'm not sure how I feel about the trailer or this take on it. People are saying that the Joker being a loser is reminiscent of "the killing joke" but this seems different. In the killing joke, the Joker was a failed comedian that was broke but he also had a wife, with a child on the way. He got bullied into a crime but only after he had agreed to participate and tried to back out because he no longer had a reason to move forward with it. He was a desperate man that lost everything and snapped.

This trailer makes it seem like the Joker starts out a complete loser living with his mother. He seems like someone that has nothing and starts to become increasingly bitter and crazy about what he's lacking and eventually takes his frustrations out on those that he blames for his own failures. I think that's why we're getting incel comparisons. Whether that is how things play out, I can't say but I can see why some people aren't feeling a take on the character that mirrors the motives and actions of some of the real life mass shooters and domestic terrorists that get the benefit of being labeled mentally ill instead of what they are just because they are white males.

 

[TheGodling]

I'm pretty sure the Joker is an 80 year-old comic book character who has always been a crazy madman, so the fact people now are taking offense to it shows how disgustingly PC everybody is trying to be.

 

[hex]

I'm not sure how I feel about the trailer or this take on it. People are saying that the Joker being a loser is reminiscent of "the killing joke" but this seems different. In the killing joke, the Joker was a failed comedian that was broke but he also had a wife, with a child on the way. He got bullied into a crime but only after he had agreed to participate and tried to back out because he no longer had a reason to move forward with it. He was a desperate man that lost everything and snapped.

This trailer makes it seem like the Joker starts out a complete loser living with his mother. He seems like someone that has nothing and starts to become increasingly bitter and crazy about what he's lacking and eventually takes his frustrations out on those that he blames for his own failures. I think that's why we're getting incel comparisons. Whether that is how things play out, I can't say but I can see why some people aren't feeling a take on the character that mirrors the motives and actions of some of the real life mass shooters and domestic terrorists that get the benefit of being labeled mentally ill instead of what they are just because they are white males.

Gotta disagree with pretty much all this.

"The Killing Joke" was about how one bad day could turn anyone into The Joker. The specifics of that bad day (him being a loser living with his mom vs how things unfolded in the comic) are irrelevant. You aren't supposed to sympathize with The Joker so it's a moot point.

You can look at damn near any villain in any form of entertainment from the last 100 years and it mirrors something in real life. Are people supposed to stop writing fiction because the shoe occasionally fits in real life?
Side note, I hate this social media era where there's a cute little nick name for everything. It's lazy as fukk. "Incel"....

shyt is super corny. I remember I seen an article talking about "why are millennials ghosting their jobs?"....motherfukker, it's called quitting, and it's nothing new.

Fred.

 

[AnotherRoute]

I know this is not an orginal take but this coule be either really dope or really trash.

I am ok with then changing it from killing the joke. shyt joker himself talks about having multiple pasts.

I am in for it .

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I know this is not an orginal take but this coule be either really dope or really trash.

Well theres zero chance it's really trash just based on the teaser and the cast alone.

All the takes comparing this to real-life nutjob far right terrorists will dissipate as we learn more about the story and find out

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Thomas Wayne is the main antagonist of the film and is portrayed as a 1980s Trump-type real estate scumbag and the film has strong themes of rich 1% vs the 99%, and mental health

two issues more relevant today than ever.

 

[010101]

dc does it's best when contrasting marvel

more dark tones & pain less comedy & technicolor

contrast is necessary

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[Bryan Danielson]

I think DC does it’s best when they just “do them”

At this point they and their fans need to stop worrying bout what Marvel does or doesn’t do

They been making movies for decades.... more in their catolog than Marvel. They’ll be fine as long as they stay true to their selves

Martha

 

[OmegaK2099]

 

[Kalut]

The Joker isn't a brawler or master escape artist. Like Ledger said, he wasn't going bring it down to a fistfight.

He gets other people to do stuff for him. He has Harley Quinn on his arm despite treating her like crap. He's a manipulator.

In the trailer, he is getting hit by cars and other people. I don't think he even throws a punch. If anything, you're probably just going to see him inciting others to mass violence and laughing about it. Watching as he gets better at doing it. Instead of working an audience as a comedian, he's going to do it on a larger scale.

You made me wanna watch this even more now