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Saw it again with my friend and was still A1, :banderas:couldn't feel tired of it


I saw his back again after he had the Murray fantasy and was like:picard: glad I've been working out my back at the gym the last few weeks


:pachaha:at Paper Boi getting outmuscled for the records


Was also a cool detail that Zazie Beetz only knew his name from being introduced at the comedy club. Still don't know if he killed her or not :francis:
I missed that part, I think she didn't knew him at all, only for being a neighbor.
 

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This is a lasting image. Haunting. Like he finally sees what he's (sadly) capable of in a massive scale.
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Joker opens to #1 with $96M domestic and $248M worldwide. That's the biggest October opening ever and the 4th biggest opening ever for an R-rated film

Box Office: 'Joker' Has the Last Laugh With Record $96M U.S. Bow, $248M Globally
7:31 AM PDT 10/6/2019
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'Joker'

The nihilistic R-rated pic exceeded expectations despite heightened security at domestic theaters; it also raked in $152.2 million overseas.

Todd Phillips' Joker had the last laugh in its box office debut, earning a huge $96 million domestically from 4,374 theaters to set a new opening record for the month of October despite heightened security at cinemas across the U.S.

That's up from Sunday's estimated $93.5 million, which was likewise a record. And international numbers came in notably higher than Sunday estimates, by more than $10 million.

The dark, R-rated supervillain movie starring Joaquin Phoenix as a mentally ill misfit turned homicidal maniac did even more business overseas, raking in $152.2 million from more than 70 markets for a global start of $248.2 million (it doesn't yet have a release date in China). Both figures likewise set new benchmarks for the month.

In North America, Joker bested last year's Venom, which started off with $80.3 million domestically. To boot, the controversial origin pic danced to the best three-day bow of all time for an R-rated title, as well as boasting the fifth-biggest weekend launch of 2019 to date. It is also Warner' biggest debut in two years.

Joker — far from an ordinary superhero pic but an origin story laced with realism — has sparked widespread headlines and concern for its nihilistic themes and violence, prompting cinemas and police departments to ramp up security and remind patrons that face paint, masks and toy weapons aren't allowed. Theaters are also checking IDs and informing guests that the film's rating is a "hard R," and that anyone under 17 must be accompanied by a parent or adult when buying a ticket.

Only 8 percent of ticket buyers were between the ages of 13 and 17, according to PostTrak's exit polling service (figures aren't available for those 12 and under). Overall, males made up 62 percent of the audience. Joker played to an ethnically diverse crowd: 44 percent of ticket buyers were Caucasian, followed by Hispanics (24 percent), African-Americans (16 percent) and Asians/Other (14 percent). The majority of the audience (65 percent) was between the ages of 18 and 34.

Audiences gave the pic a B+ CinemaScore, while its Rotten Tomatoes freshness rating stands at 69 percent. Village Roadshow and Bron Studios each have a stake in Joker, which cost north of $60 million to produce before marketing.
 

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I missed that part, I think she didn't knew him at all, only for being a neighbor.
I forgot , did he run out / stop taking his medication before or after that

I guess that's why he was hallucinating
 

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I know I’m late seeing this, but let me unpack a few things:

- The whole incel/loaner who gets back at the world thing is most overblown narrative that is simply not true that I can remember. The first 20 minutes of the movie you find out he’s been institutionalized already, sees a shrink, is on meds and is clearly not stable.

- 100% didn’t expect him to kill the 3 on the train. Whole theater jumped out of their seats.

- 100% thought they were going to go with only him having issues, not his Mom too.

- DYING to know what he did with the girl and her daughter.

- Every second of the scene in his apartment when he kills his old co worker was fantastic
 

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the scene where he's hunched over in the kitchen with his spine sticking straight out before he starts taking shyt out tne fridge is a lasting image for me that was like an art photo of a broken man

i really wanna see this again for the visual alone
 

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I know I’m late seeing this, but let me unpack a few things:

- The whole incel/loaner who gets back at the world thing is most overblown narrative that is simply not true that I can remember. The first 20 minutes of the movie you find out he’s been institutionalized already, sees a shrink, is on meds and is clearly not stable.

- 100% didn’t expect him to kill the 3 on the train. Whole theater jumped out of their seats.

- 100% thought they were going to go with only him having issues, not his Mom too.

- DYING to know what he did with the girl and her daughter.

- Every second of the scene in his apartment when he kills his old co worker was fantastic
His childhood trauma will get overlooked in how much it plays a part in his arrested development because a lot of people fall in that boat and go on to live somewhat normal lives or theyre trying to forget it ever happened.
Some parents viewing will also feel ashamed for being apart of the cycle.
 

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I finally saw this. I thought it was BRILLIANT. I say this as someone who was never really into anything Batman/Joker related stuff at all and completely ignored all the hype. I went to see this with no expectations and came away mindblown. This is what good movie making is, which is quite rare nowadays.

I'll definitely rewatch.
 

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Just finished watching it with the Mrs. Cinema was packed to the rafters and big applause at the end of the film

I liked it a lot. Feared the first hour as it felt a bit slow and I was generally tired from work but it perked you as soon as he absorbed the Joker role

the Mrs said she think he killed the girl and her daughter. I don’t think so. But who know
Because I LOVE Batman’89, my favourite scenes was when he was as the Joker in the TV studio as it reminded me of the infamous Joker scenes before the street carnival.

Great film but annoyed that the Harley Quinn film goes back to old Joker. No idea what is in the future for Batman. Definitely need to see Joaquin take yo this role again.
 

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Good news for those of you who want a sequel

Joaquin Phoenix Talks “Endless Possibilities” for ‘Joker’ Sequel: “Me And Todd Would Still Be Shooting Now If We Could”

Leading up to the release of “Joker,” the talk of any potential sequels was really squashed by director Todd Phillips, who said that this film was constructed as a “one and done” situation. However, with the ravenous support from fans and the critical acclaim for Joaquin Phoenix’s performance and the box office records, you know that Warner Bros. is definitely putting some feelers out for a potential sequel. And for Phoenix, the idea isn’t as far-fetched as you might think.

Speaking on “Popcorn with Peter Travers,” the actor was asked a seemingly easy question about whether or not “Joker” would be described as a “dream role.” Phoenix gave a great answer, and in his explanation of his response, he hinted that another round of “Joker” could be a possibility.

“You know, I wouldn’t have thought about this as my dream role. But now, honestly, I can’t stop thinking about it,” admitted Phoenix. “I talked to Todd a lot about what else we might be able to do, in general, just to work together, but also specifically, if there’s something else we can do with Joker that might be interesting. So, it ended up being a dream role. It’s nothing that I really wanted to do prior to working on this movie.”

After Travers brought up the fact that even Phoenix hinting at a sequel is a huge departure for a guy who previously turned down the starring role in “Doctor Strange” due to the contractual obligations of sequels, the actor explained why “Joker” is different.

I don’t know that there is [more to do],” said Phoenix. “Me and Todd would still be shooting now if we could, right? Because it seemed endless, the possibilities of where we can go with the character.

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Marc Maron Responds to ‘Joker’ Director’s Comedy Comments: “Maybe You’re Just Insensitive”
Joker has not been lacking in controversy in a variety of fashions. Not only is the film itself being lambasted as genuinely dangerous by some, but co-writer/director Todd Phillips turned heads recently by blaming “woke culture” for the reason he can’t make comedies anymore. Now Joker co-star and stand-up comedian Marc Maron has a pretty eloquent and spot on response.

Phillips first broke ground in Hollywood as the director of bro-centered comedies like Old School and Road Trip before finding mega-success with The Hangover, which spawned two sequels that he also directed. Following The Hangover trilogy, Phillips first flirted with more dramatic material with the Martin Scorsese-influenced arms dealer dark comedy War Dogs, which he said was due in part to not being “allowed” to be funny anymore:

“Go try to be funny nowadays with this woke culture,” Phillips said. “There were articles written about why comedies don’t work anymore—I’ll tell you why, because all the fukking funny guys are like, ‘fukk this shyt, because I don’t want to offend you.’”

Maron—who has a small part in Joker as the producer for Robert De Niro’s character Murray Franklin—addressed Phillips’ comments on a recent episode of his WTF podcast (via The Playlist), and he basically has no time for Phillips’ nonsense:

“There’s plenty of people being funny right now. Not only being funny but being really fukking funny. There are still lines to be rode. If you like to ride a line, you can still ride a line. If you want to take chances, you can still take chances. Really, the only thing that’s off the table, culturally, at this juncture –and not even entirely– is shamelessly punching down for the sheer joy of hurting people. For the sheer excitement and laughter that some people get from causing people pain, from making people uncomfortable, from making people feel excluded. Y’know, that excitement.”

Maron went one further, adding that if you blame your lack of comedic success on the culture, you’re either not a good comedian or just insensitive:

“As I’ve said before, it’s no excuse. If you’re too intimidated to try to do comedy that is deep or provocative, or even a little controversial, without hurting people, then you’re not good at what you do. Or maybe you’re just insensitive.”

He’s not wrong. In the wake of Phillips’ comments, many pointed to folks Phoebe Waller-Bridge, John Mulaney, Taika Waititi, etc. etc. as examples of comedians who are thriving despite the intrusion of “woke culture,” as Phillips perceives it.

But Maron concludes by essentially saying “you do you,” saying Phillips and others like him are more than welcome to continue on with their brands of comedy. They just have to be able to deal with the reaction:

“Bottom line is no one is saying you can’t say things or do things. It’s just that it’s going to be received a certain way by certain people and you’re gonna have to shoulder that. And if you’re isolated or marginalized or pushed into a corner because of your point of view or what you have to say, yet you still have a crew of people that enjoy it, there you go! Those are your people. Enjoy your people.
 
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