Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

[ExodusNirvana]

I was driving so I couldn't give a real review at the moment. But for me it basically came down to his origin story not making sense with the Joker that we've known him as in all the other movies/cartoons/comics etc

The movie should be called "Arthur"

That's my biggest issue. Gotham knows who he is. So it's like why even call him joker? Every other story joker was always a mysterious character that no one knew about, now all of Gotham knows it's Arthur? All of Gotham knows his story? Why is Joker so transparent when he's the least transparent person in the DC universe?

There wasn't much going on in this movie except Joker being disturbing and doing a bunch of laughing and dancing.


And my other biggest gripe is the whole Joker / Bruce possibly being related thing. Just thought it was silly to even throw the idea out there to begin with , whether it's true or not true. But also, I always thought Joker and Batman we're close in age. Why is Joker in his 40's while Bruce is still a kid? By the time Bruce grows up Joker would be Bernie Sanders status.

But yeah, I left the theater feeling the movie was lackluster and left more to be desired. I did like the acting though.

Breh...he is not related to Thomas Wayne...Jokers mother was delusional and Joker is delusional himself...that's the point

A great deal of the movie takes place IN HIS HEAD....the Joker is insane...he will concoct a story that makes HIM the victim when really he is just a monster

 

[lamont614]

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Do you think he killed her or just left Zazie

 

[lamont614]

That's the point...he is an agent of chaos, that has been fed and nurtured by the cesspool that is Gotham City

True...he MIGHT be the result of a decent man having a bad day or a series of bad events but that doesn't condone his actions because what he does is pure madness and the actions of a Psychopath.

Bruce Wayne had a bad day once...but he used that to push himself towards becoming a better man so that he could save the city in the way that his father could'nt, that the police can't, that ordinary people can't because Gotham is a hell that most can't fathom. And mind you this is Gotham City BEFORE Thomas Wayne dies...when Bruce comes back from his journey around the world learning things and training, the city is even WORSE, which is part of what spurs him to become The Batman.

This is why Batman never kills Joker...Joker killed Jason Todd, raped and paralyzed Barbara, and is responsible for thousands of other deaths in Gotham, but if he kills Joker, he is no better than Joker...

He didn’t rape Barbara

My joker is no rapist

 

[OJ Simpsom]

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Do you think he killed her or just left Zazie

spoiler tags breh.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

He didn’t rape Barbara

My joker is no rapist

We'll never know...it was" implied" and you can never be too sure

 

[Carlton Banks]

This is why Batman never kills Joker...Joker killed Jason Todd, raped and paralyzed Barbara, and is responsible for thousands of other deaths in Gotham, but if he kills Joker, he is no better than Joker...

I never agreed with that high moral bullshyt. Batman would be better because he's saving lives.

 

[Carlton Banks]

Breh...he is not related to Thomas Wayne...Jokers mother was delusional and Joker is delusional himself...that's the point

A great deal of the movie takes place IN HIS HEAD....the Joker is insane...he will concoct a story that makes HIM the victim when really he is just a monster

I'm aware. But before we the audience realized that there was a moment where the idea was that he was related to Bruce and Thomas Wayne was his father. I just didn't like that at all. I don't need to be teased with that bullshyt just for a "oh shyt" moment.

 

[Brozay]

bro why wouldnt you just use the actual spoiler tags? @lamont614

as for your question

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I dont think he did. If he let the midget live, I imagine he let her live. HOWEVER, after that scene he does go back to his apartment and you hear sirens going off in the background I noticed. I also imagine they would have made it more clear he killed them, at the very least to show his downward spiral into becoming the Joker

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I never agreed with that high moral bullshyt. Batman would be better because he's saving lives.

Are racist cops better than the average racist CAC because racist cops save lives??

Amber Guyger has probably saved lives in the past, but she murdered an innocent man who was just in his crib chillin

 

[Brozay]

I'm aware. But before we the audience realized that there was a moment where the idea was that he was related to Bruce and Thomas Wayne was his father. I just didn't like that at all. I don't need to be teased with that bullshyt just for a "oh shyt" moment.

It wasnt for an oh shyt moment, it was to demonstrate how crazy his mom was and explain the abuse Arthur suffered growing up. Just like the scenes with Sophie were there to demonstrate his delusions. If youre not getting that then I see why you didnt love the movie tbh

 

[Jx2]

If you want a perfect example of incel culture brought to film under the guise of 'mental illness' watch Fight Club, but Joker aint it brehs nowhere close.

Fight Club is a classic that was ahead of its time in predicting the uptick of incel culture as a snapback reaction to 24/7 pop cultural/capitalistic influence in every pocket of our society

But it was so ahead of its time that incels didn't have farm league systems like ***** to groom and develop their rhetoric and churn out willing disciples looking to carry out their agendas of overtaking the Chads of the world.

Todd Phillips just seemed like he wanted to cash in on this phenomenon, not cast a critical light on the matter. That's why this movie didn't interest me in the slightest..

He took half of The Killing Joke and decontextualized it and in doing so I think makes his origin story LESS impactful because it takes away the connecting of the dots from that one day to the modern day Joker that we know and despise

 

[Norrin Radd]

I never agreed with that high moral bullshyt. Batman would be better because he's saving lives.

That shyt will always be hilarious to me. Joker will blow up a building and kill 800 people and Bruce will just be like “Imma give you a time out”

The families of everybody who died be lookin at Batman like

 

[lamont614]

bro why wouldnt you just use the actual spoiler tags? @lamont614

as for your question

Spoiler

I dont think he did. If he let the midget live, I imagine he let her live. HOWEVER, after that scene he does go back to his apartment and you hear sirens going off in the background I noticed. I also imagine they would have made it more clear he killed them, at the very least to show his downward spiral into becoming the Joker

I don’t know how to use the spoiler tag
Teach me no troll
Also. That midget thing was weak
Lol you was nice to me
Mark hamil joker would have offed that midget

 

[Max.]

If Marvel made this movie, the media wouldve been praised them for pushing the boundaries of comic book films. Not trying to sabotage the shyt

Keeping it a buck...marvel movies are getting kinda stale to me...it took hela years for big names to die...they always got wack villians(robots or alien from space)

 

[Carlton Banks]

It wasnt for an oh shyt moment, it was to demonstrate how crazy his mom was and explain the abuse Arthur suffered growing up. Just like the scenes with Sophie were there to demonstrate his delusions. If youre not getting that then I see why you didnt love the movie tbh

Either way the delusions didn't keep me interested. Mainly because we already know he's insane. So it's not like they have to prove to me that he is.

It's like this movie wants to be shutter island, but with a comic book twist. But shutter island till this day leaves you with questions as to who the main character really was and if he was really crazy or not.