OFFICIAL Game of Thrones Season 7 Thread - Winds of Winter. Spoilers=BAN, Theories in [spoiler] tags
Rhaegar was a real piece of shyt
The amount of fukkery this dude caused because he just had to have a bytch. Brehs pimp hand was catastrophic
He didn't do it out of selfishness. He was trying to fulfill the prophecy. Dude was a book worm as a kid, learned about the prophecy and had one of the coldest lines ever: "I shall require a sword and armor, seems I must become a warrior"
It was probably slimy ass Littlefinger who started the war by making up lies about Rhaegar kid napping and raping Lyanna.
If true, Littlefinger started two devastating wars in the kingdoms. He deserved way worse than he got.
Littlefinger did everything. Fingaz been 
since birth.
yep, so much shyt he did could have easily backfired, but he just got lucky. I mean how could he have known no one would confront him about the claim that the catspaw knife belonged to Tyrion?
Adam3000
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It took multiple major coincidences, luck, and convoluted plans to pull that off. It is absolutely not something that could be mapped out from the Jon Arryn poisoning.
It works as a reveal only because we don't find out about it until its so far advanced that no one who reads it bothers to go back in time to look at how asinine it all was.
If anything, the plan was a shytty one that exposed Littlefinger as an idiot. He was building a fortune by manipulating Robert's financials and running his brothels. By starting a war, he risked it all including his life to throw shyt on the wall
Lysa was obsessed with him it wouldn't have been hard for him to marry her he could have done that whenever he wanted and ruled through her. He just chose to stay in the thick of things in kings landing but he literally could have married Lysa at anytime and just to have that in his back pocket makes poisoning Jon Arryn worth it for littlefinger.
Now, trying to engineer the whole stark vs lannister beef out of that I would definitely file under throwing shyt up against the wall status
((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL
RIP MR. SMOKE
I loved the episode but that sam/bran scene was low key cheesy.
Bran: "I'm the 3 eyed raven"
Sam: "That's whats up"
Bran: "ay you know jon is a b*stard right"?
Sam: "you aint heard?....his pops and ma dukes were legit"
Bran: "you lyin. show me the receipts"
Sam: "wtf. aint you the 3 eyed raven?
.....you ARE the receipts you crippled ass bytch boy"
then the way bran went on like "jon isn't a b*stard
....he's aegon targaryan....the rightful heir to the throne......he has to know.........I was
.......maybe it's cause everybody already knew. but that scene was just too over the top and forced to me.
Bran: "I'm the 3 eyed raven"
Sam: "That's whats up"
Bran: "ay you know jon is a b*stard right"?
Sam: "you aint heard?....his pops and ma dukes were legit"
Bran: "you lyin. show me the receipts"
Sam: "wtf. aint you the 3 eyed raven?
.....you ARE the receipts you crippled ass bytch boy"then the way bran went on like "jon isn't a b*stard
....he's aegon targaryan....the rightful heir to the throne......he has to know.........I was.......maybe it's cause everybody already knew. but that scene was just too over the top and forced to me.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
Veteran
Littlefinger ain't have a plan. We've discussed this in seasons past, all he wanted to do was create chaos. He didn't have some master plan that had to followed from point to point. He was a master at adapting and improving his position in midst of chaos as the people with real power are too distracted to realize what he's doing. His ability to adapt is best illustrated in his ploy to get Sansa out of King's Landing. This was thwarted by Varys yet Littlefinger still managed to bounce back and get her out in another way that had nothing to do with his original plan.
The "trial" for Littlefinger illustrates Cersei's point somewhat, as someone who is not highborn it was basically Sansa listing out crimes asking him if he denies them as a formality really He also quickly coped to Lysa's death as well and the Vale showing him that he may have the title but not the power. Hell Bran's statements were just taken at face value. Tyrion's trials even tried to have a semblance of whatever due process they could afford him. It was like one of those show trials in dictatorships.
He also quickly coped to Lysa's death as well and the Vale showing him that he may have the title but not the power. Hell Bran's statements were just taken at face value. Tyrion's trials even tried to have a semblance of whatever due process they could afford him. It was like one of those show trials in dictatorships.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
Veteran
Rewatching the finale, getting everybody together at the Dragon pit made for great television, I still don't think it made sense to the story. They weren't even asking for her help, they were asking Cersei to pull her armies back so they could focus on the Great War because if she didn't, Cersei could "reclaim" parts of the country. So what? If Cersei reclaims those lands Dany can just take them back after they defeat the Night King.
Furthermore, why was Sansa even invited to this meeting. Jon's the King in the North, and he was set to be there. What's the point in inviting the person he left to rule in his absence? To the story, there's no point, seems it was only added to get Brienne there to interact with Jamie for the audience's benefit.
The Hound going back makes no sense either. The Hound wasn't on anyone's mind when they devised the plan to capture a wight because he was locked in a cell unbeknownst to Jon, Tyrion and them. They didn't lose anyone from the Dragonstone crew on the expedition, so who were they expecting to transport the wight back originally? Plus, when you add to that the fact that the Hound is a deserter fugitive with a price on his head who has repeatedly stated how much he hates King's Landing and never wants to go back it truly makes no sense that he'd be the one the one to transport the wight. Seems it was done purely to give us a Hound v Mountain encounter.
Furthermore, why was Sansa even invited to this meeting. Jon's the King in the North, and he was set to be there. What's the point in inviting the person he left to rule in his absence? To the story, there's no point, seems it was only added to get Brienne there to interact with Jamie for the audience's benefit.
The Hound going back makes no sense either. The Hound wasn't on anyone's mind when they devised the plan to capture a wight because he was locked in a cell unbeknownst to Jon, Tyrion and them. They didn't lose anyone from the Dragonstone crew on the expedition, so who were they expecting to transport the wight back originally? Plus, when you add to that the fact that the Hound is a deserter fugitive with a price on his head who has repeatedly stated how much he hates King's Landing and never wants to go back it truly makes no sense that he'd be the one the one to transport the wight. Seems it was done purely to give us a Hound v Mountain encounter.
Stelio Kontos
All Star
Did you guys have a Season 1 discussion thread? I'd like to read it when I do my rewatch eventually. Your reactions in these threads are gold. Although this year with the spoilers and theories and whinging its been 
joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
Sam: "wtf. aint you the 3 eyed raven?
i laughed so fukking hard i dribbled
joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
CJ
Your objective semi-troll
Was anticipating the wall coming down and still wasn't ready for it to go down like that 
but I couldn't help but laugh watching the NK ghostriding Viserion Walker. GOAT "in" gif for sure. Winterfell getting hit first though in that opener
Really enjoyed the Dragon Pit scene. Crazy to see almost all the main's in one setting. Only now learning about the real life Bronn/Cersei beef hence him and Pod leaving before she entered (they only had one scene together all series which is crazy considering he is Jamie's go-to-guy.) Was hoping for Cleganbowl, but it's def coming.
Can't wait for Sam to break the news to the Snowman and Dany. shyt should be full of laughs. Gonna watch an EP a week (on Sundays) starting from the first one. That should bring me right to season 8, hopefully
but I couldn't help but laugh watching the NK ghostriding Viserion Walker. GOAT "in" gif for sure. Winterfell getting hit first though in that opener Really enjoyed the Dragon Pit scene. Crazy to see almost all the main's in one setting. Only now learning about the real life Bronn/Cersei beef hence him and Pod leaving before she entered (they only had one scene together all series which is crazy considering he is Jamie's go-to-guy.) Was hoping for Cleganbowl, but it's def coming.
Can't wait for Sam to break the news to the Snowman and Dany. shyt should be full of laughs. Gonna watch an EP a week (on Sundays) starting from the first one. That should bring me right to season 8, hopefully