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Tyrells are done but there is still an army/navy in Sunspear.....whats gonna happen with that......Someone there should/could coordinate with Team Dany....or Jamie could be headed there next with his army to completely secure the south because.......

The unsullied WILL march toward Kings Landing......Tarley/Lannister forces will have to go stop them, they might get too stretched thin in doing so

There are still ships on DragonStone and probably still in Meeren as well where the 2nd Sons also are just chillin waiting for the call to join in

Then there are the 3 dragons, though we have already seen Killer Cayburn's plans for them.

shyt is still looking iffy for the Lannisters. If not for Jon and the threat of the White Walkers. It would be over already. Jon would have been had The North join up with the dragon lady.
I think people underestimate the dothraki. Multiple kings and lords have said it would be retarded to face them in the open field. Like automatic loss

Tyrion said the Lannisters got about 10k soldiers left. Even with other armies they got what 20k, 50k?

There are 100 thousand motherfukking dothraki ready to go to war. Plus the 9-10k unsullied. Also known as one of the illest warriors in the world.

Those allies were major losses but we still up by a lot. In the end, with a few EPs left. I see a full out war. Losing 2 dragons. And then the real war starts. This season seems to be all about the lannisters. The intercontinental champ. Night king is all next season
 

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I wonder how many of the 100,000 Dothraki are fighting men. Seems like a good deal of them should be children, women, and former Dothraki slaves.

And I wish they addressed how they were feeding them:huhldup: But I assume they brought provisions with them and could still have Daario shipping food and or supplies from what used to be slavers bay.

Or maybe they left all of the women and children in Essos, and the entire hoard is fighting men?:leon:
 

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Y'all are missing my point. I know Ned couldn't tell Robert. I know he had to choose between loyalties

What I am saying is, it's not so cut and dry, "Ned was the most honorable guy".

This is game of thrones. Nobody is all perfect. In order for ned to keep one promise to his sister, he had to lie to his friend, lie to his wife, lie to his kids. And that left a stain on his marriage, pain in his wife and left Jon with a life full of hate directed his way.

Could he have told another lie? Maybe. Could he have told his wife at the least and trusted her? Maybe. But he did what he did.



But other than that. There were other times where he took an oath as hand, where he again betrayed rob. Maybe he felt his reasons were justified. He didn't want a war and he didn't want kids killed. But was his oath to the kids? Or was it to Robert? He was protecting Roberts enemies. Enemies that he thought killed Robert arryan as well. Another oath/friend he was sworn to.

Then he wrapped it all up by lying again. To save his family.




Can these things be justified. Sure. But they can just as easily be justified as treason, especially telling cersei to run


Put it like this. In a world where everybody has to lie and cheat and steal to survive, Ned was the most honorable. Not perfect, but he always had the best intentions. His lies and oath breaking were never due to ego or power reaching. He wanted to save lives.
 

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It's sloppy writing but there shouldn't be chaos. The Dornish army should still be kicking along with several highborn lords willing and ready to keep the fight going. But the way they've written Dorne, I guess when the freaking sand snakes die, it means all of Dorne dies with them:mjlol:
that and oberyn told tyrion he had 8 sand snakes. there's no reason why the others wouldn't have just stepped in. writing is :flabbynsick: without that big George outline.
 

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Thinking on it, they justified the coupe of the Sand Snakes by saying the people of Dorne are tired of weak rulers that don't fight, so it seems as if Dorne should still be eager to fight the Lannisters and welcome their new Dragon queen despite what happened to four b*stard women.
ellaria and the snakes were tired of not fighting, so with them gone, wouldn't the status quo prevail? and was it said that dorne was already on board or were the sands headed to dorne to get them on board? (I honestly don't remember) In any case, I can see the flaw if dorne were supposed to fight, but due to how hard they fukked up dorne in the series and how much people didn't like the storyline, I don't think most fans will care.

Edit this article from bustle says they were headed to dorne to rally the army, so yea, that's where the dornish army is...in dorne, unaffiliated.

Things really took a turn for the bloody side towards the end of Sunday's Game of Thrones episode "Stormborn." After Dany met with Ellaria, Yara, and Olenna to discuss their military strategy, she and Tyrion sent Ellaria to be escorted back home by Yara in order to rally the Dornish army for Dany's cause. Unfortunately, their ship ran straight into big, bad uncle Euron's fleet of thugs and things went downhill really fast. There were a lot of deaths that happened in a short span of time and with the dark atmosphere of the scene, it was tough to decipher what was happening at times. So, did Ellaria die on Game Of Thrones?
Yes they are free from the 7 kingdoms shyt BUT the sand snakes took over. They had organized all of dorne for war. They were on the way to pick up the army, not convince them, but pick them up and go directly to war

So they get captured on the way there and the army is like "oh fukk it then" and goes home and goes to sleep? Targset doesn't even attempt to send word and TRY to convince them to fight the fight they was already about to start?
 
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Nikkas didn't know Joffrey was gonna pull that shyt until he pulled it.

And like everything else Joffrey did, nikkas sat on it like:francis:
Cersie and Jamie were right there though:yeshrug:

They fukked up. Doesn't make any sense why experienced rulers would make that kind of diplomatic mistake. They thought the North would just do nothing:francis:

All over some BS the Ned couldn't really prove
 

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Put it like this. In a world where everybody has to lie and cheat and steal to survive, Ned was the most honorable. Not perfect, but he always had the best intentions. His lies and oath breaking were never due to ego or power reaching. He wanted to save lives.
I can fukk with that :salute:
 

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Cersie and Jamie were right there though:yeshrug:

They fukked up. Doesn't make any sense why experienced rulers would make that kind of diplomatic mistake. They thought the North would just do nothing:francis:

All over some BS the Ned couldn't really prove
Rewatch it. Cersei was begging Joffrey not to do it.

This is a time where kings ruled. Don't matter if they said let me fukk your mother in the middle of town then have my army kill her with one stab a piece.... nobody was to disobey that order, including her son, husband and family. Including his as well.

That's why it was some boss shyt when tywin showed up and started bossing him around. If joff said "kings guard kill him" they'd have to obey. But tywin was like nah, you really a punk bytch and I dare you to do something.


Everyone was shook of him
 

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