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Fixed timeline, brehs.
 

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Fixed timeline, brehs.

Nah, that doesn't fit this either. If he doesn't make Hodor who he is, Bran dies in that room. Or you could argue Bran escapes no matter what....rendering the whole Hodor thing pointless, if this is a fixed time line.

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what are the night kings true intentions?

We dont know as of now. But many people speculate that they might not be as evil. I feel like they see mankind as a virus to earth as a whole. Kind of like ultron feels killing humanity will benefit the world as a whole. This is just speculation, i hope it isnt just fukk everyone were trying to murder everything in sight.

I don't think so, because remember they tried to kill John.

Also, there were Starks up north who spoke like they were in fear of the white walkers, highly doubt they're interested in teaming up with Bran...at least not in a friendly way. They may try and force him to do something for them, considering how aggressively they came at him.
Did they try to kill jon tho. They were just trying to get the dragonglass from that hut and jon knew and was trying to get it. Dude could have killed jon if he really wanted when dude hit him with that chest shot and knocked the wind out of him.
 

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The problem with that is Hodor was saying "hodor" before Bran was even warging. Or, the alternative is he wasn't, and Bran retroactively changed the past this episode.

Either way, something was changed. And the writers can't really play it any other way than "it already happened, now you know the reason" because he's been saying "hodor" since his first appearance. It's not as if they could show us anything other than what already happened, anyway.

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Yeah because when he was a kid bran fukked up his head. It had already happened and was cemented. Bran was always going to fukk his shyt up. It's possible he's responsible for other shyt in the past too. We just gotta wait and see breh.:manny:
 
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Fixed timeline, brehs.

How do you know this? What in the show has indicated it is a fixed timeline?


The fact that Future Bran caused Willis transformation into Hodor actually suggests it's NOT a fixed timeline. It's the only one if those three you could actually rule out. Unless you're arguing that even if that fall killed Bran, some other traumatic experience would have caused Willis to lose his mind in that fashion....if so, how has the show suggested this?

Personally, I believe we're dealing with a multiverse. The white walkers probably win in the other timelines. That's how the the three eyed raven goes through so much to get him to that cave. He knows the stakes.
 

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Nah, that doesn't fit this either. If he doesn't make Hodor who he is, Bran dies in that room. Or you could argue Bran escapes no matter what....rendering the whole Hodor thing pointless, if this is a fixed time line.

Fred.

Hodor was already Hodor. It's not like there's a timeline 'A' which is linear and we have a perfectly fine and fully cognitively functioning Hodor. Then event 'B' occurs which is traveling back in time and then we get new altered timeline 'C' (i.e., a mentally challenged Hodor whereas he was perfectly fine before we went back in time).

He was always going to become Hodor. It's the sort of fate/predestination angle of time travel. The event has already happened in the past. We finally just saw what happened that made Hodor, Hodor in the present. The other side of that coin is since it already occurred in the past -- the traveling from the future/present HAS to happen too. Unbeknownst to Bran, he was always going to fukk Hodor up.

You saw the last don was like, "Listen to your friend," when Meera was telling him to warg into Hodor. He wasn't even tripping :ehh:. It was always going to happen. There's no set of events that could have transpired where Bran didn't warg into Hodor and subsequently fukk him up, because that past reality had already occurred and been realized.

It's Bruce Willis seeing adult him get killed in 12 Monkeys in the train station as a kid. It's trying to alter events and unknowingly creating those same events you were trying to prevent in the future.

The ink is dry. :yeshrug:
 
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Hodor was already Hodor. It's not like there's a timeline 'A' which is linear and we have a perfectly fine and fully cognitively functioning Hodor. Then event 'B' occurs which is traveling back in time and then we get new altered timeline 'C' (i.e., a mentally challenged Hodor whereas he was perfectly fine before we went back in time).

He was always going to become Hodor. It's the sort of fate/predestination angle of time travel. The event has already happened in the past. We finally just saw what happened that made Hodor, Hodor in the present. The other side of that coin is since it already occurred in the past -- the traveling from the future/present HAS to happen too. Unbeknownst to Bran, he was always going to fukk Hodor up.

You saw the last don was like, "Listen to your friend," when Meera was telling him to warg into Hodor. He wasn't even tripping :ehh:. It was always going to happen. There's no set of events that could have transpired where Bran didn't warg into Hodor and subsequently fukk him up, because that past reality had already occurred and been realized.

It's Bruce Willis seeing adult him get killed in 12 Monkeys in the train station as a kid. It's trying to alter events and unknowingly creating those same events you were trying to prevent in the future.

The ink is dry. :yeshrug:

Again, when has the show suggested this? Sounds like y'all just want it to be that way so you don't have to deal with all these paradoxical questions. But the show never suggests this
 

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The problem with that is Hodor was saying "hodor" before Bran was even warging. Or, the alternative is he wasn't, and Bran retroactively changed the past this episode.

Either way, something was changed. And the writers can't really play it any other way than "it already happened, now you know the reason" because he's been saying "hodor" since his first appearance. It's not as if they could show us anything other than what already happened, anyway.

Fred.
bruh it's a time loop. a paradox
we are currently viewing the timeline where bran fukks up and has to warg into hodor screwing his life up.
because he wargs into him, young hodor sees his own fate and is stuck with it up until it happens which is why he is fukked up. even when he comes across the point in time which caused him to be fukked up

basically hodor just saw his future.
 
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