OFFICIAL Game of Holmes Season 8 Thread - A Dream of Flat Tops 4/14/19

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Apparently some changes have been made to the length of the tonight's episode. It went down by 4 minutes and then up by 6.

Now listed as 125 minutes for some. What does it say for you brehs?
 
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bl2k8 said:
Y’all think there is any chance the writers filmed a multiple endings knowing there was a strong possibility the intended version was gonna be leaked?:francis:

Would it even be possible for them to keep the alternate episode locked away as a break glass in case of emergency type situation.:francis:
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Dave24 said:
Apparently some changes have been made to the length of the tonight's episode. It went down by 4 minutes and then up by 6.

Now listed as 125 minutes for some. What does it say for you brehs?
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JACK! said:
Mance was definitely a real one

Aliser Thorne though :mjlol:
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Would you have done different in his shoes? :jbhmm:

Wildlings murdered, raped, pillaged your people for centuries. Would you go against your vows and how you operated for decades to let them back onto the mainlands based on claims some mythical figure is gathering for an attack? Would you believe Jon murdered Qhorin, your legendary ranger, as some elaborate plot to gain Wilding trust? If we didn't follows Jon's journey, how would we not be forced to assume he's a double agent? Because his fat friend that claimed to kill a Walker (yet can't swing a sword) backed him? He slept with the enemy. Got captured. Lived to tell about it. Somethings up. :jbhmm:

Only reason Jon survived The Wall is because an old, blind, and bordering-on-senile old Maester backed him. Must've sensed the Targaryan in him. :ehh:

I have a feelin if Jon and the rest of the Night's Watch were black, a large segment of this forum would say he c00nin. :lolbron:
 
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JACK! said:
The only way to interpret that scene is that Jaime was being sarcastic. Otherwise nothing about his character ever made sense :francis:
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Yes thats how i interpreted it the first watch but upon the second viewing he seemed dead ass serious.

If this season had really set up any good faith between the storytelling and the audience it could be interpreted as Jamie attempting to unsuccessfully slip back into his old persona as an arrogant, pompous, a$$hole because thats his defense mechanism.

But who the fukk knows at this point
 
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Spliff said:
Would you have done different in his shoes? :jbhmm:

Wildlings murdered, raped, pillaged your people for centuries. Would you go against your vows and how you operated for decades to let them back onto the mainlands based on claims some mythical figure is gathering for an attack? Would you believe Jon murdered Qhorin, your legendary ranger, as some elaborate plot to gain Wilding trust? If we didn't follows Jon's journey, how would we not be forced to assume he's a double agent? Because his fat friend that claimed to kill a Walker (yet can't swing a sword) backed him? He slept with the enemy. Got captured. Lived to tell about it. Somethings up. :jbhmm:

Only reason Jon survived The Wall is because an old, blind, and bordering-on-senile old Maester backed him. Must've sensed the Targaryan in him. :ehh:

I have a feelin if Jon and the rest of the Night's Watch were black, a large segment of this forum would say he c00nin. :lolbron:
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Thorne was a fukk nikka long before any of the stuff you're talking about:comeon:
 
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bl2k8 said:
Y’all think there is any chance the writers filmed a multiple endings knowing there was a strong possibility the intended version was gonna be leaked?:francis:

Would it even be possible for them to keep the alternate episode locked away as a break glass in case of emergency type situation.:francis:
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Don’t want to get too deep into spoiler territory but apparently

Yes they filmed two specific multiple endings regarding two specific characters but the true outcome is going to be the same regardless
 
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R.E.N. Spells Ren said:
Thorne was a fukk nikka long before any of the stuff you're talking about:comeon:
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Explain, cuz all I got is:

  • Thorne was a loyalist soldier during Robert's Rebellion, he was at King's Landing doing his job, when Tywin Lannister gave him the wonderful choice between summary execution, or exile to the Wall. So Thorne took the black, and honestly just keeps doing his job, but it's a harsh life, he's one of the very few knights there so he has to train clueless kids, thieves, rapers, etc., how to fight, has to live in the cold North (not his native environment), and deal with wildlings and such, so it's not surprising that he's a very bitter and jaded guy. His situation is somewhat ironic because Robert likely would have completely pardoned him (Robert was well known for being merciful, and turning enemies into allies), but he had the bad luck of Tywin Lannister's more rigid sense of justice

  • Add to the above that Ned Stark was a high ranking commander in Robert's army, so Thorne probably has some lingering animosity towards the Starks in general

  • The Night's Watch, or at least Castle Black itself, obviously plays favorites with Northmen. Benjen Stark gets to be first ranger, while others such as the "legendary" Qhorin 'halfhand' are just shuffled away to a secondary position in a different base. Jeor Mormont (another Northman) gets to be Lord Commander, etc. I don't think Thorne wanted these positions for himself, or that they were incorrectly assigned, but it would certainly feel out of place, as a Southron Knight, to be surrounded by Northmen in the power structure. I don't remember if we're told where the other officers are from, but I'm confident that Thorne was the only officer at Castle Black who was a Knight in the South. Then along comes Jon Snow, the Lord of Winterfell's acknowledged b*stard son, and nephew to the first ranger, who is immediately fast tracked to command

  • Read AGOT again, Jon is an irritating little boy who annoys a lot of people during his early days at Castle Black. Thorne is not the only one to get sick of this kid really fast. Jon also goes out of his way to subvert Thorne by harassing Rast and basically forcing everyone (under threat of death) to go easy on Samwell Tarly during training

  • Jon attempts to attack Thorne, when Thorne mocks him after Ned Stark is killed, and Mormont reacts by rewarding Jon, and sending Thorne down to King's Landing to ask for help at the Wall

  • When Jon gets back to Castle Black in ASOS, he openly admits to killing his CO and taking a wildling "wife", while traveling with the enemy
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