Yeah, I remembered wrong. Been ages. Again, you bring up Mika, but she's even on a milk carton now. Gief may as well not be in 6 if they're going to do that bullshyt.That's inaccurate. Spd was 2-3f in sf4. The only thing that was 0f is Ultra 2 if I remember right.
Frame data alone don't tell the whole story. The reason grapplers are so good in SF5 is the lack of pushback. That's why tick throws ran the game. This also leads into why 3.1 Abigail was broken because he could chain cr lk with hardly any pushback leaving it a gamble guessing on a grab that would lead to you losing half your life, or cr lk opening you up into losing half your life
The perfect example is Mika and why she's so terrifying. Fhp is +3 on block with hardly ANY pushback, effectively making her 5f command grab 2f while the bytch has been in your grill the whole time. And Laura needs no explanation
Nikkas love and hate fighting games based on the frame data's relationship to the pushback and don't even realize it
But yea after the first big Abigail nerf they just kept nerfing that nikka into the dirt
One of the reasons Gief himself is specifically terrible is he's not allowed to use pushback the way other competent characters do. All you get is cr jab into spd if you're lucky
Also Alex is terrifying. Nikkas sleep
