Official Emmy Winning WandaVision Thread

[R=G]

Wanda threw her out the hex and would have slammed her into concrete if she didn’t have powers. All this after violating her mind.

This is what people are saying rings false. Of course everyone would want one more day with their loved ones.

How many people would be like “same girl” if the price was throwing 100 people into lava to see the person they loved. Not many.

Thats what happens when you interfere with gods..lol.

 

[Kenny West]

You gotta be under some MK Ultra type brainwashing to really defend pointlessly trolling your fans with fake plot twists who's implications were way more interesting than the story that actually came out.

Yes theory crafting fans are annoying as shyt, the theory crafting fans in the One Piece fanbase suck for making a million wrong theorys every week. But we just them nikkas get proven wrong week after week. But to torpedo the story for EVERYONE for the sake of trolling those people is an absolutely terrible creative decision. Defending it with "hawhaw ur mad!" is counterproductive if this is your FANBASE that you're shytting on.

Before the Stanleys break out the capes, remember when they pulled this bullshyt with the Mandarin in Iron Man 3? Did trolling the fans make that movie memorable? Did that make the movie good?

fukk no. The movie was terrible and lives in infamy as one of the worst in the Marvel Universe. Trolling the fans didnt help it to be memorable, entertaining or fun. Just gave people another reason to never revisit this

Wanadavison made that same mistake

 

[The_Sheff]

Once folks realize the X-Men and fantastic four aren't coming for a while they will have more fun watching this material.

Folks mad because the show took the opportunity to trick the audience just as the main character was being tricked.

Fan theories are always 100% more out there than the actual story, always. There was never going to be a Mojo behind the scenes, the X-Men aren't showing up, Wanda didn't create the mutants, etc ....

These shows are going to flesh out characters and give set ups for future movies. Those setups will also be recapped in the movie to explain to those audiences what happened. For example whenever white vision shows up in a movie they gonna show where he came from again. Don't expect something as crazy as Magneto being introduced.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

You gotta be under some MK Ultra type brainwashing to really defend pointlessly trolling your fans with fake plot twists who's implications were way more interesting than the story that actually came out.

Yes theory crafting fans are annoying as shyt, the theory crafting fans in the One Piece fanbase suck for making a million wrong theorys every week. But we just them nikkas get proven wrong week after week. But to torpedo the story for EVERYONE for the sake of trolling those people is an absolutely terrible creative decision. Defending it with "hawhaw ur mad!" is counterproductive if this is your FANBASE that you're shytting on.

Before the Stanleys break out the capes, remember when they pulled this bullshyt with the Mandarin in Iron Man 3? Did trolling the fans make that movie memorable? Did that make the movie good?

fukk no. The movie was terrible and lives in infamy as one of the worst in the Marvel Universe. Trolling the fans didnt help it to be memorable, entertaining or fun. Just gave people another reason to never revisit this

Wanadavison made that same mistake

Feige was asked at a presser if fans would have to watch the TV shows like Wandavison in order to understand/follow the movies.

His answer was no.

That should've put to bed any crazy fan theories or plot twists or suprises cameos.


I think the reason for all the hype with this show is

1. People was looking at this too much like a movie.

2. The weekly format gave people too much time to jump to conclusions.

 

[Shogun]

Feige was asked at a presser if fans would have to watch the TV shows like Wandavison in order to understand/follow the movies.

His answer was no.

That should've put to bed any crazy fan theories or plot twists or suprises cameos.


I think the reason for all the hype with this show is

1. People was looking at this too much like a movie.

2. The weekly format gave people too much time to jump to conclusions.

You don’t think they were intentionally feeding fake hype?

 

[Standing on business]

Marvel does what some FALSELY claim they always do. Some get mad at that and hate that.

Now Marvel does something completely different from what some FALSELY been claiming they always do. Some are complaining about this and want it the other way.

Some folks will never be happy. And other than providing reason or examples of what they would’ve liked. It’s laughable a few you of y’all saying “y’all didn’t like this”

Free country and everyone can have the opinion, but damn

I’m a HUGE marvel fan and I just didn’t like it. Whats laughable is people judging you because you didn’t really care for the show

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

breh

 

[BillBanneker]

Delete

 

[The axe murderer]

You gotta be under some MK Ultra type brainwashing to really defend pointlessly trolling your fans with fake plot twists who's implications were way more interesting than the story that actually came out.

Yes theory crafting fans are annoying as shyt, the theory crafting fans in the One Piece fanbase suck for making a million wrong theorys every week. But we just them nikkas get proven wrong week after week. But to torpedo the story for EVERYONE for the sake of trolling those people is an absolutely terrible creative decision. Defending it with "hawhaw ur mad!" is counterproductive if this is your FANBASE that you're shytting on.

Before the Stanleys break out the capes, remember when they pulled this bullshyt with the Mandarin in Iron Man 3? Did trolling the fans make that movie memorable? Did that make the movie good?

fukk no. The movie was terrible and lives in infamy as one of the worst in the Marvel Universe. Trolling the fans didnt help it to be memorable, entertaining or fun. Just gave people another reason to never revisit this

Wanadavison made that same mistake

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

You gotta be under some MK Ultra type brainwashing to really defend pointlessly trolling your fans with fake plot twists who's implications were way more interesting than the story that actually came out.

Yes theory crafting fans are annoying as shyt, the theory crafting fans in the One Piece fanbase suck for making a million wrong theorys every week. But we just them nikkas get proven wrong week after week. But to torpedo the story for EVERYONE for the sake of trolling those people is an absolutely terrible creative decision. Defending it with "hawhaw ur mad!" is counterproductive if this is your FANBASE that you're shytting on.

Before the Stanleys break out the capes, remember when they pulled this bullshyt with the Mandarin in Iron Man 3? Did trolling the fans make that movie memorable? Did that make the movie good?

fukk no. The movie was terrible and lives in infamy as one of the worst in the Marvel Universe. Trolling the fans didnt help it to be memorable, entertaining or fun. Just gave people another reason to never revisit this

Wanadavison made that same mistake

Yup

The thing is, the story isn't good enough to stand on its own outside of that

This was a stinker

Wanda and Vision had some strong scenes at the beginning

But then it devolved into goofy hijinks and standard super hero affair

Which it did worse than the other films

Don't even get Monica's story time to breathe, before we get the Nick Fury wants to see you scene which is played out

 

[The axe murderer]

 

[AnonymityX1000]

A few things, even though I agree that people went wild with the theories, the blame is ultimately Marvel for even setting up so much double worded meanings, Easter Eggs and mystery as to what's going on that lead to people coming up with these theories. Especially the biggest blemish of the whole Quicksilver. They purposely put it out there for people to theorize and go ham with it then played along with these fake leaks and sources and actors acting all smudge and coy about "special guest stars" and in the end NONE OF IT MATTERED. People still are acting like this show was "setting up" Dr. Strange or Spider-Man and really it's not. There's no point to say it is based off the point they wasted these so-called hints as bullshyt. They could of just told a STRAIGHT UP character arc story about how Wanda's grief and depression led up to her becoming the Scarlet Witch without all the nonsense and Easter Eggs and so-called clues that maybe or maybe not be part of other MCU installments. And you wouldn't have these wild theories. But Marvel baited it and it bit them in the ass. That's why the director of the finale had to temper down expectations because they realize they created something that gotten overblown.

2nd, the finale is BAD regardless. And I believe people would of been upset no matter what. It's no so much about being wrong, but dissatisfied at what they did show. A good contrasting comparison is the finale of the Mandalorian season 2. There were wild theories and predictions leading up to that finale, but EVERYONE was satisfied with what they got which both properly concluded that seasons why successfully setting up things in the future along with spinoffs.

Lastly, the biggest problem: The resolution with Wanda. All that occurred and nothing from her to learn from it? What was the whole point of this series? Granted I know it's an origin tale of Scarlet Witch with a subplot origin of Photon.Spectrum, but it felt unearned. As if Marvel wanted to tease that Wanda's a villain, but they rather use half-measures rather than make it clear cut which is why the finale is befuddling. Even Monica's character arc is weak and unearned as to her connection with Wanda, because we don't see an example shown to Monica grieving or feeling a sense of loss. No emotional connection. Or no emotional connection between Wanda and Agatha. Agatha would of been the most interesting character, but the finale had her resorted to another cookie cutter villain, when technically she wasn't truly villainous at all. Nor Director Hayward. I would of respected it more had Marvel WENT THERE and made it clear, cut and dry that Wanda is undoubtedly the villain, Monica the HERO, Agatha more of an Antihero, and Director Hayward a by the book agent. Then had Monica be the one conflicted as to convincing Wanda to do the right thing, still defying Hayward, but so make the decision of trying to stop or fight Wanda once she realize that Wanda is too far gone. This showing the contrast of how Monica could overcome her own loss by witnessing how far gone Wanda has gone. Even with Monica unable to stop Wanda because of her being too powerful, at least it would give reason for her and SWORD to seek for someone like a Dr. Strange. But that's just my opinion.

The Ralph Bohner thing was not a good idea, I agree with that but the actors saying misleading things in interviews I give them a pass. Paul Bettany was just telling a joke regarding working with an actor he always wanted to act. I really don't think he thought of all the implications regarding 'theories' and nerd fans using It as evidence of something. He did not mislead the fans purposely he just underestimated how serious nerd culture takes this stuff. Olsen did lie BUT these interview questions regarding Marvel stuff are ridiculous. Is there going to be a Luke Skywalker type reveal in the show? What kind of question is that? She has to 'yes' no matter what the truth is based on how it was asked. She can't disappoint a segment of the audience before the show ever airs by saying 'no', that would be dumb. And really no other franchise when being promoted by actors are the questions specific about future plot points except Marvel stuff because it is inter connected. These are dumb and unfair questions constantly trying to get actors to spoil the plot. Lying by the actors is almost required.
The rest of what you said is your personal review of the show which you are entitled to and I'm not going to try to argue. You sound disappointed in the overall show and that's fine.

 

[The axe murderer]

 

[BillBanneker]

They were reassembling Vision. The whole point of Hayward inviting Wanda to see Vision was in hopes that she could awaken him. He even told her as much that Vision is useful to SWORD. His plan was precisely to bring Vision back online. The whole definition of SWORD is SENTIENT WEAPON Observation Response Department..

Right, “sentient weapon “ observation response Dept.
They don’t probably have the authority to Weapon-ize the Vision, just managed the storage and or the disposal of such tech. They were disassembling him at that point, he tells Wanda that she can’t just straight up bury 3 billions worth of vibramium into the ground.He didn’t say anything about bringing him back online. The idea that he wanted to bring Vision back online was his secret plan. It’s why he wants to pin Vision coming back online on Wanda.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Also New Rockstars pointed out today that the other astral users ... were unconscious and it was their inner-self that was out and about on the astral plane.

In Wanda's case she was awake.

ts 23m08s

Agatha made the claim that she's more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme so I just assumed she is able to multi-task and astral project while awake.

Also that guy's hard-on for being right about Mephisto is weird as hell.
Wanda's going to be in Dr. Strange 2 and there is already an established magical villain who's established goal is to conquer The Multiverse.
Why is everyone just leap frogging over the most obvious villain in Dormammu to point to Mephisto?
Is it the Mephisto connection with Wanda's kids from the comics? Because The MCU has changed a ton of shyt from the comics in the movies. Hank Pym created Ultron in the comics but he had zip to do with it in the MCU. Things that occurred in the comics don't always line up when being transferred to the big screen.