Just got back from IMAXing this joint. It felt like a whole new movie. Not only were the visuals better, but I could swear some dream scenes werein this version that were not in the version I saw on the firestick. And the score was absolutely mind-blowing in the theater. Glad I did this.
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KalKal
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Yeah, the idea that "the slow blade penetrates the shield" is not even supposed to be a spoiler. You're kind of supposed to already know that, but I realize now that maybe they didn't do the best job of explaining it.
Liked this much more than I anticipated. Hope they don't take forever for the next one.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
This is a movie for Dune fans TBH
I watched it on HBO Max and while I can appreciate it because I'm a Dune fan, the movie jumps, the audio is not the best, and it doesn't really feel like they've built up the world much
I feel like they did'nt even really explain why the spice is so important
I watched it on HBO Max and while I can appreciate it because I'm a Dune fan, the movie jumps, the audio is not the best, and it doesn't really feel like they've built up the world much
I feel like they did'nt even really explain why the spice is so important
Saysumthinfunnymike
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it's one of the 1st things they explain and then they touch on it on a number of times..
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Right but SHOW why...go in depth
This is what many people are talking about with this movie when they say they haven't really given the audience a reason to care about this
This really should have been a series and not some movies trying to cram a huge novel in
ON SECOND WATCH
THIS DEFINITELY SHOULD
HAVE BEEN A GAME OF THRONES
TYPE SERIES.
THE DUNCAN IDAHO CHARACTER,
HIS SKILLSET
AND HIS JOURNEY ON ARAKIS
SHOULD HAVE BUILT UP
OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEASON
TO GIVE HIS DEATH A BIGGER PAY OFF.
THIS DEFINITELY SHOULD
HAVE BEEN A GAME OF THRONES
TYPE SERIES.
THE DUNCAN IDAHO CHARACTER,
HIS SKILLSET
AND HIS JOURNEY ON ARAKIS
SHOULD HAVE BUILT UP
OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEASON
TO GIVE HIS DEATH A BIGGER PAY OFF.
Yeah, there are a LOT of cut scenes including training scenes. I'm guessing the shields and fighting techniques are further explained in some of those scenes.
Just found out today there was an additional Yueh cut scene I didn't know about. Seems like there were separate personal, emotional scenes with Yueh/Jessica (where they lament over the Harkkonens having his wife) and Yueh/Paul (where he gives Paul an Orange Catholic Bible). If they had shown those then the betrayal by Yueh would have been much more emotional and powerful, and the way he set up Jessica/Paul to escape would have made more sense.
I still stand on the fact that there was no way to make it of large enough scale with series funding. The entire 10-episode first season of Game of Thrones was made with just $50 million and that's one of the most expensive series, whereas this one Dune movie cost $165 million. You ain't gonna get those incredible space scenes and scale in a series.
And then how many episodes are you going to go through of people talking and plotting and training before you get to the first real fight scene? The ambush on Arrakis would have been....Episode 6? Episode 7? You would lose everyone but the fanboys before you really got going. Game of Thrones built a casual audience by being pure sex/violence right from the opening episode, Dune didn't have that sort of cheap trick so you needed the payoff of the entire movie all at once to get the broader audience hooked.
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Definitely required those scenes because his betrayal is enormous in the book and not just because of his wife. As apart of his profession, they're able to charge exorbitant prices of even the Royal family because they NEVER betray a patient or get involved in any House politics. It would be like Hawat pumping out false numbers, it's just not supposed to be possible.
In the film, it was hollow which is terrible for a pivotal moment. One of my few complaints about the film. You can't possibly condense it all inside that runtime so you have to prioritize certain elements for the plot to be cohesive. Sacrificing a few set pieces in order to make that happen would have been a better choice.
I would have preferred they just make it a longer movie. The three Lord of the Rings movies averaged 2:55 each (even without the extended versions). Add 20 minutes to Dune and I think you'd have enough time for:
* The 2 Yueh scenes (build his, Paul, and Jessica's characters more while setting up the betrayal)
* The Paul/Jessica training scene (need it to explain the Weirding Way, sets up both of their skills as fighters better, might cover the shields deeper)
* Gurney on the balliset (gets his character deeper so the scripture quotes feel more in character)
* Play out the Jamis fight longer so that the stakes feel heavier and Paul's life is more at risk in the beginning
Majestyx
Duck Season
this low attention span shyt is fukkin up storytelling. movie should def be longer.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Another 20 minutes and it would have dragged. if the viewer pays attention from the opening scene all these questions are answered. Denis got all the info in there you need and did so without bloating out the running time.
Sure i'd buy a Director's Cut but for theaters this was a tremendous cut.
The doctors betrayal makes no sense.
You betray the Duke to get your wife back but your planning to poison the guy who can give your wife back?
Why even betray Duke in the first place? For a shot at revenge? Kind of short sighted but guess the story needed to forward.
You betray the Duke to get your wife back but your planning to poison the guy who can give your wife back?
Why even betray Duke in the first place? For a shot at revenge? Kind of short sighted but guess the story needed to forward.
See this is exactly what I'm talking about. Pivotal information was left out & left so many people confused.
I really gotta read the books.
I was also wondering how the Fremen live undergound with worms tunneling all over, but then I thought worms cant tunnel through rock.
Or doesnt the sand compactor use vibrations, wont that attract worms?
Reading the books may have all these little details.
