Official Deadpool 2 Thread

[The Mad Titan]

The structure holds up even though the first half act lags a bit. But you’ve got three solid acts with arcs for the three main characters (pool, cable, Russell) and their arcs and character development are tied together, which is always good writing. And nothing that happens with the three of them feels forced. It all ends at a logical conclusion. The movie sets things up in the first or second act and pays them off in the third (Deadpool not being a hero, cable’s time device, the teddy bear, Russell finding someone who does give a shyt about him) and the action scenes are pretty dope as well. Good choreography, easy to keep track of, and told their own story inside of the larger story.

The basic things a movie needs to do from a story standpoint are all there. But clearly the movie is going to live or die on its humor and if the humor doesn’t work for you then there’s a good chance the rest of the stuff won’t even be noticed.

To me it got the most basic of the basic right, The story was a typical romantic comedy meshed with an action movie. Its pacing was bad, the characters either pretty accurate or completely in accurate, the acting was very sub par. I felt like everyone played there role the same besides cable, everyone seem to act out the role like "this doesn't matter, have a good time" Movie paced and reminded me of a netflix series more than a feature film.


Plots, jokes, even action scenes are just reused or heavily played off the 1st movie, groping colossus again, blind al...blind stuff again, baby legs instead of baby arms, making fun of his looks, it goes on and on.... There isn't much original about the film, and for me personally the humor was way to over the top elementary for me to enjoy.


on top of that they throw in a bunch of names to kill them or completely change around there power sets.


Cable showing up to kill the and just everything about the movie seemed some what random and thrown together to really just take digs at other movies, only for everything that happen to not really matter because deadpool get the timeslip working...I left out the movie like why did I watch this.

 

[MartyMcFly]

To me it got the most basic of the basic right, The story was a typical romantic comedy meshed with an action movie. Its pacing was bad, the characters either pretty accurate or completely in accurate, the acting was very sub par. I felt like everyone played there role the same besides cable, everyone seem to act out the role like "this doesn't matter, have a good time" Movie paced and reminded me of a netflix series more than a feature film.


Plots, jokes, even action scenes are just reused or heavily played off the 1st movie, groping colossus again, blind al...blind stuff again, baby legs instead of baby arms, making fun of his looks, it goes on and on.... There isn't much original about the film, and for me personally the humor was way to over the top elementary for me to enjoy.


on top of that they throw in a bunch of names to kill them or completely change around there power sets.


Cable showing up to kill the and just everything about the movie seemed some what random and thrown together to really just take digs at other movies, only for everything that happen to not really matter because deadpool get the timeslip working...I left out the movie like why did I watch this.

Yeah obviously I don’t see it that way

Basic plotting isn’t always a bad thing. Sometimes stuff is basic because it works. Like I said the movie is really propelled by the comedy and the romantic angle so if you don’t buy any of that you won’t buy the movie. Thought the acting was anything but sub par.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Yeah obviously I don’t see it that way

Basic plotting isn’t always a bad thing. Sometimes stuff is basic because it works. Like I said the movie is really propelled by the comedy and the romantic angle so if you don’t buy any of that you won’t buy the movie. Thought the acting was anything but sub par.

You know, I think after BP and IW back to back the bar is just kind of raised for me personally lol.

lol so this deadpool is #notmypool

 

[BillBanneker]

Saw it yesterday, they dev seemed to play up all the aspects from the first one.Thought the pacing and plot were meh, the 4th wall breaking was

 

[MartyMcFly]

You know, I think after BP and IW back to back the bar is just kind of raised for me personally lol.

lol so this deadpool is #notmypool

I feel that. But it’s a different type of game man. Deadpool ain’t working with the same money nor is it trying to take itself as seriously as those movies. Black panther is a serious movie. Infinity war is a serious movie. They’re asking deep questions and dealing with deep subjects. Deadpool is just concerned with a love story and its main hero trying to prove to himself he is in fact a hero. It’s a parody and a satire, which are two things infinity war and black panther wouldn’t dare to be nor should they be

 

[hex]

Fox quiksilver was WAY better than the Disney quiksilver. And Disney has butchered some of the villains as well.

I'm gonna keep this brief because I don't want to derail the thread.

25 years ago if you would've told me there would be an X-Men vs Apocalypse movie....and it would be terrible, and they'd completely butcher Apocalypse, it would've broke my heart as a comic fan.

25 years ago if you would've told me there would be an extended universe based on The Avengers with lackluster/mediocre versions of Hela, Malekith, Ego, Yellowjacket, Ronan, Dormammu, etc. but they did justice to Thanos....I would've said two things....#1 who the fukk are those random ass characters and #2 who cares about Thanos, they fukked up Apocalypse.

And that sums up why these movies aren't judged equally. The MCU consists of B-Z tier characters which is why it's graded on a curve. Not saying it's fair but it is what it is.

Fred.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I'm gonna keep this brief because I don't want to derail the thread.

25 years ago if you would've told me there would be an X-Men vs Apocalypse movie....and it would be terrible, and they'd completely butcher Apocalypse, it would've broke my heart as a comic fan.

25 years ago if you would've told me there would be an extended universe based on The Avengers with lackluster/mediocre versions of Hela, Malekith, Ego, Yellowjacket, Ronan, Dormammu, etc. but they did justice to Thanos....I would've said two things....#1 who the fukk are those random ass characters and #2 who cares about Thanos, they fukked up Apocalypse.

And that sums up why these movies aren't judged equally. The MCU consists of B-Z tier characters which is why it's graded on a curve. Not saying it's fair but it is what it is.

Fred.

I don’t trade them shyts on a curve. I know you brought that argument to the table before and while I hear it I disagree with it. Judge everything equally for me. If you’re a c grade villain that’s cool but you have to do things a movie should do and that’s present compelling characters especially if you’re one of the headliners and villains are headliners. Apocalypse was ass cheeks but so was the yellow jacket. They both get docked in my book.

 

[The Mad Titan]

I feel that. But it’s a different type of game man. Deadpool ain’t working with the same money nor is it trying to take itself as seriously as those movies. Black panther is a serious movie. Infinity war is a serious movie. They’re asking deep questions and dealing with deep subjects. Deadpool is just concerned with a love story and its main hero trying to prove to himself he is in fact a hero. It’s a parody and a satire, which are two things infinity war and black panther wouldn’t dare to be nor should they be

hmm it's not even that, I get that.... I just think this deadpool movie was so over the top that it wasn't really deadpool anymore. Like I feel like somewhere the "essence of what makes deadpool a funny and edgy character was lost in the movie and he just became an "adult swim character"

It'd be like if they did a logan 2 and wolverine started killing everyone women, children and men because "he's a killer" the 1st deadpool movie I praise and told people they should see because they got deadpool right. This movie it just seemed to be not only more but way more...

Like they managed to change, both BP and thanos and really kept the core of there character, granted it's part one so we'll see if that holds up for part 2's.


And again, maybe its because I'm a pretty big deadpool fan and cable and domino and juggs... so seeing the together had me hyped.

But it just fell flat for me personally. I understand the power of making people laugh, so I'm not mad at people giving it 8's and 9 but... man I'm not seeing it lol.

 

[MartyMcFly]

hmm it's not even that, I get that.... I just think this deadpool movie was so over the top that it wasn't really deadpool anymore. Like I feel like somewhere the "essence of what makes deadpool a funny and edgy character was lost in the movie and he just became an "adult swim character"

It'd be like if they did a logan 2 and wolverine started killing everyone women, children and men because "he's a killer" the 1st deadpool movie I praise and told people they should see because they got deadpool right. This movie it just seemed to be not only more but way more...

Like they managed to change, both BP and thanos and really kept the core of there character, granted it's part one so we'll see if that holds up for part 2's.


And again, maybe its because I'm a pretty big deadpool fan and cable and domino and juggs... so seeing the together had me hyped.

But it just fell flat for me personally. I understand the power of making people laugh, so I'm not mad at people giving it 8's and 9 but... man I'm not seeing it lol.

That’s fair. I didn’t feel like they got any character wrong per say but I’m one of the few here who believe tobey and Sam got Spider-Man wrong so I understand where you’re coming from. Different strokes brother.

 

[hex]

I don’t trade them shyts on a curve. I know you brought that argument to the table before and while I hear it I disagree with it. Judge everything equally for me. If you’re a c grade villain that’s cool but you have to do things a movie should do and that’s present compelling characters especially if you’re one of the headliners and villains are headliners. Apocalypse was ass cheeks but so was the yellow jacket. They both get docked in my book.

That's all fine and well but you're approaching this like a film critic when these characters obviously predate film.

If you remove this discussion from modern times....again, let's say 25 years ago....nobody is going to freak out if you tell them Yellowjacket will eventually be in a movie. The average comic fan wouldn't even know who Yellowjacket is, to give a fukk either way. If you told even casual comic fans that the movie version of Apocalypse is then the response would be vastly different. There's no way you can sit there and tell me the responses would be remotely similar. Unless you met the one Yellowjacket stan on the planet.

The fact that Marvel had to use The Avengers to build their cinematic universe....instead of their more popular characters which were sold off....underscores what I'm saying. These characters weren't equally popular or relevant, and the expectations for them were never the same.

Fred.

 

[MartyMcFly]

That's all fine and well but you're approaching this like a film critic when these characters obviously predate film.

If you remove this discussion from modern times....again, let's say 25 years ago....nobody is going to freak out if you tell them Yellowjacket will eventually be in a movie. The average comic fan wouldn't even know who Yellowjacket is, to give a fukk either way. If you told even casual comic fans that the movie version of Apocalypse is then the response would be vastly different. There's no way you can sit there and tell me the responses would be remotely similar. Unless you met the one Yellowjacket stan on the planet.

The fact that Marvel had to use The Avengers to build their cinematic universe....instead of their more popular characters which were sold off....underscores what I'm saying. These characters weren't equally popular or relevant, and the expectations for them were never the same.

Fred.

I hear you. Again your logic is sound that’s just now how I roll and can’t roll that way lol. It makes all the sense in the world from a non film critic or film writer standpoint. Or even from a non film lover standpoint.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

To me it got the most basic of the basic right, The story was a typical romantic comedy meshed with an action movie. Its pacing was bad, the characters either pretty accurate or completely in accurate, the acting was very sub par. I felt like everyone played there role the same besides cable, everyone seem to act out the role like "this doesn't matter, have a good time" Movie paced and reminded me of a netflix series more than a feature film.


Plots, jokes, even action scenes are just reused or heavily played off the 1st movie, groping colossus again, blind al...blind stuff again, baby legs instead of baby arms, making fun of his looks, it goes on and on.... There isn't much original about the film, and for me personally the humor was way to over the top elementary for me to enjoy.


on top of that they throw in a bunch of names to kill them or completely change around there power sets.


Cable showing up to kill the and just everything about the movie seemed some what random and thrown together to really just take digs at other movies, only for everything that happen to not really matter because deadpool get the timeslip working...I left out the movie like why did I watch this.

This is the era of fukkery and that's what people want. Especially from a movie like this where deadpool(Reynolds) just gonna do what he wants no matter how overdone it is.

I have some major issues with this flick, but it's a comedy and it's supposed to make you laugh. A lot of the jokes were bad, I didn't really think Cable was given the proper writing, the Russell kid wasn't funny and his character was just kind of pointless that they tried to make important.

But in the end full on fukkery is what people wanted and that what DP2 gave em. I will have to see it again to see if the parts i found funny hold up and if the overall movie was better than i first thought.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

You didn't like IW or you just like this movie so much?

Asking forreals I don't think I saw your IW review/reaction.

I liked IW enough. Like a 6/10

But I felt that movie had huge pacing issues,the first like 2/3 of the film were not that good,with meh action scenes. I thought the black order were boring as hell. it wasn't until the fight in titan does that film hit all cylinders. Thought every time they had the chance to really shock and awe like killing hulk at the start or killing iron man they pussied out and that all the deaths are just cheap shock value that are meaningless since we already know some of the characters have films announced. I already know spider man 2 is right after avenger 4,why would I care?

Didnt like how they ruined thanos motivation and made it some dime a dozen generic villain motivation that we've seen countless times in generic action movies. Killing people to save people just isn't interesting.

iW is good enough as an event,but as a film it's uneven,messy,pacing issues and the humour in it was terribly unfunny and corny. Jokes about ben and jerry's ice cream and shyt is cringe worthy.

I think that right now we are at the height of its hype cycle and people won't be realistic about that film for another 5 years. Same thing happened with the first avengers. When that movie came out you couldn't tell people it wasn't the best comic book film ever or at least one of the best. Now the majority of people are more accepting of all its flaws and it's just a middle of the pack McU film. I could see the same thing happening to IW.

I could see deadpool 2 lessening for me in rewatches though as well. But overall I was more entertained by deadpool 2. I felt bored at times during IW. Like characters like vision were given big chunks of screen time and were straight up bad in that film.

But like I said in the IW thread it's hard to fully judge that film without seeing avenger 4. What happens in that film could radically change how a3 is viewed.

 

[mr x]

Dope flick

 

[ZEB WALTON]

Im not gon lie i was midly dissapointed they didnt bring up cablwa telepathy and telekinesis. I was hoping for atleast one mention of it saying he cant use it as hes focusing on his disease

And than have him blw out deadpools brains with the tk from talking too much and having the disease spread a lil and him saying it was worth it to shut him up

I remember that scene in comic. I needed that

Sides that i loved this flick up n down. IW was better but this was a solid xmen flick up n down.

I hope they keep these characters wh n they move to marvel. They all did a great job.