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Ima try and get thru it this week
I'll let you know
All kinds of award stickers on the shyt tho!

Yea that book was more or less his "breakout" book as far as the mainstream is concerned. He wrote books before, they got good reviews as well but not the notoriety of "Between the World and Me."
 

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Now back to BP, why is Misty in The Crew? She's street. Shouldn't it be Monica? That's like when DD became an Avenger...what?
 

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I feel you, but I actually love how she captured the Oakland in Fruitvale Station as her style is really organic and grounded from what I've seen in her other work comparatively. This is a huge jump in budget for both him and her, so I hope they find a way to bring that gritty and authentic storytelling to compliment the high concept style that is expected from a Marvel film. I don't doubt Coogler on this choice tho because he has a natural sense of whats right and wrong as a filmmaker, and trusts his people to bring the right qualities to the table...
We'll see. Hoping for the best. I guess I was higher on the Creed DP because at least she had experience with a somewhat tent-pole film. I may have to revisit Fruitvale Station. She did really well with Dope though.

Edit: The director of Dope is now doing The Flash so Coogler probably made sure they secured her before she got away.
 
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They were doing a great job off the heels of the 1st Civil War though. This chick right here, unless they spin this into a major W, she's completely unlikeable.

BP / Carol / Dr. Strange / Spider-Man / Lady-Thor / Sam Wilson / Vision / Ant-Man

That should've just been the ANAD Avengers, to shamelessly cash in on the MCU movie lineups. Would've delivered a lot of interesting character pairings, which could've helped build Carol up by siphoning her off multiple characters instead of just solely leaching BP and forcing her into this character assassination arc with Iron Man.
 

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Ironically, Chadwick was one of those actors people bytched about when he landed the role. Once Idris was out, they was mad it wasn't Chiwetel. Mad it wasn't Aldis Hodge. Yet after all the complaining, Chadwick is he best thing that could've happened to the character. Funny how that works.



Every black male cast in this franchise gets the same treatment apparently:
Oh shyt they signed___ for the film! :gladbron::blessed:
Oh wait i don't like/know that nygga :scust::dame:
Maaan they should've got _________:gurl:


*movie drops*

It was lit! :mjcry: it was so lit!:banderas:


We've seen the cypher complete with T'Challa and T'Chaka already.

I don't remember anybody bytching about Chadwicke. In fact he was rumored for the role almost after 42 came out.

Nah I preferred Chiwetel for the role....still do in someways :yeshrug:

Chadwick is more athletic and looks younger (although he's actually older)

However, Chiwetel would easily own that role and even without a suit stands above other actors in the MCU.

But I get why they went with Boseman. He's athletic, taller and looks younger. :manny:

In terms of being able to portray regal, intensity and overall acting chops its not close. Thats no disrespect to Boseman. Good actor. Ejiofor is on another level.

Sidenote: The guy who played T'Chaka did well...but they could have done better as well...

Lets not act like because its the first representation on film that it couldn't have been better..
 

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Nah I preferred Chiwetel for the role....still do in someways :yeshrug:

Chadwick is more athletic and looks younger (although he's actually older)

However, Chiwetel would easily own that role and even without a suit stands above other actors in the MCU.

But I get why they went with Boseman. He's athletic, taller and looks younger. :manny:

In terms of being able to portray regal, intensity and overall acting chops its not close. Thats no disrespect to Boseman. Good actor. Ejiofor is on another level.

Sidenote: The guy who played T'Chaka did well...but they could have done better as well...

Lets not act like because its the first representation on film that it couldn't have been better..

I so wanted to see Ernie Hudson in that role
 

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Now back to BP, why is Misty in The Crew? She's street. Shouldn't it be Monica? That's like when DD became an Avenger...what?

Including Monica would make the Crew really overpowered. You already have Manifold and Storm in the group, two very powerful people, as well as Luke Cage.
 

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Nah I preferred Chiwetel for the role....still do in someways :yeshrug:

Chadwick is more athletic and looks younger (although he's actually older)

However, Chiwetel would easily own that role and even without a suit stands above other actors in the MCU.

But I get why they went with Boseman. He's athletic, taller and looks younger. :manny:

In terms of being able to portray regal, intensity and overall acting chops its not close. Thats no disrespect to Boseman. Good actor. Ejiofor is on another level.

Sidenote: The guy who played T'Chaka did well...but they could have done better as well...

Lets not act like because its the first representation on film that it couldn't have been better..

Welllll, no disrespect to Ejiofor but Fiege felt Boseman was the better choice :manny:, and if its about itemizing fabricated reasons as to why, for our own personal conscience (i.e. "they just went with Boseman because he's 2 inches taller and looks younger, altho he's older" :heh:), well hey, do ya thing.


But as someone who's followed the character close to 20 years, I wouldn't want anyone else playing him in 2016 unless there was a time machine to hop back to mid 2000s Idris Elba, and even then.. Boseman not only captured the regal and intensity of T'Challa, but he does his homework and embraces the character. And it shows with how celebrated his performance was with critics and audiences. And how hyped ppl are to see more of him.

So let's also not act like we couldn't use this apples vs oranges petty preference shyt (i.e. so & so coulda/woulda been better) for practically all casting decisions. Chadwick killed it in CA:CW and even if he killls it in all 3 BP solo movies, ppl still gon be on whatever shyt they on. T'Chaka was fine, Zuri (played by Whitaker) will be fine... but those set on not liking them aren't going to like them regardless of their performances in 2018. Sincere or not, or just lowkey trolling b/c of some DC vs Marvel shyt.

That's why i :russell:the same way i do when scrollin through the CBR pages.
 

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Welllll, no disrespect to Ejiofor but Fiege felt Boseman was the better choice :manny:, and if its about itemizing fabricated reasons as to why, for our own personal conscience (i.e. "they just went with Boseman because he's 2 inches taller and looks younger, altho he's older" :heh:), well hey, do ya thing.


But as someone who's followed the character close to 20 years, I wouldn't want anyone else playing him in 2016 unless there was a time machine to hop back to mid 2000s Idris Elba, and even then.. Boseman not only captured the regal and intensity of T'Challa, but he does his homework and embraces the character. And it shows with how celebrated his performance was with critics and audiences. And how hyped ppl are to see more of him.

So let's also not act like we couldn't use this apples vs oranges petty preference shyt (i.e. so & so coulda/woulda been better) for practically all casting decisions. Chadwick killed it in CA:CW and even if he killls it in all 3 BP solo movies, ppl still gon be on whatever shyt they on. T'Chaka was fine, Zuri (played by Whitaker) will be fine... but those set on not liking them aren't going to like them regardless of their performances in 2018. Sincere or not, or just lowkey trolling b/c of some DC vs Marvel shyt.

That's why i :russell:the same way i do when scrollin through the CBR pages.
I have no problems with any of the new cast for BP movie. Maybe MBJ...but I gotta see what direction they are taking that character. Boseman did really good in the role and have no problems with him having the role. It is what it is. :ld:

I'm sure Boseman will carry the movie and kill it :manny:

However, (as an actor) he can be a little wooden at times. The scene with him and Zemo being an example of that. :yeshrug:
I didn't feel the anger/conflicting emotions. I was more like "why you do that' :why:... he wasn't given the best material there, but he couldn't elevate it either in that scene.

I will say Coogler does a great job with actors. Which is why I'm sure he'll get a great performance out of him.

Ejiofor there's no question. He has more range as an actor. Ultimately it doesn't matter because we still have a very good actor in the role.
 

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I didn't feel the anger/conflicting emotions. I was more like "why you do that' :why:... he wasn't given the best material there, but he couldn't elevate it either in that scene.
I thought he elevated it just fine and won audiences over on the character who may've still thought dude was a villain (:mjpls:).

The only issue i had was with BP/Natasha's deleted scene; the omission made it seem like BP's only goal was to kill Bucky when in truth Bucky was officially an escaped Wakandan prisoner who BP could bring in dead or alive. So not killing Zemo makes more sense if we knew that wasn't the only option in play for BP.

But the scene itself was beast mainly b/c of Chadwick's intensity and glare as he took in the gravity of Zemo's words. "The living are not yet done with you" line was thrill shyt too.
I'm sure Boseman will carry the movie and kill it :manny:
Now here, we are in agreement. :obama:
 
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