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Official Black Panther MCU Thread
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Da roots still existed so they still grow.
Because mass and leaness doesnt work that way. It's precisely because shooting schedules are so tight, and different roles require different sizes, that they have to juice. Jackman was the most obvious.
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Great discussion on the film. Really starts around 10 minutes.
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We know that bullshyt is coming. It’s even made its way over here a lil bitThe Root, of course, on their "toxic masculinity" bullshyt via Killmonger
Alright let me clear up some of the confusion surrounding the Heart Shaped Herb.
It’s Tuesday now. Five days after release so I won’t spoiler this post but just in case SPOILER ALERT BELOW
From The Comic Canon. The Heart Shaped Herb has a secret fail safe, in that anyone NOT of the royal family lineage who consumes the Herb is poisoned. So even if you happen to defeat T’Challa, if you are not of his bloodline (brother, son, sister, Uncle, cousin, etc.) you will have an adverse reaction and die.
Now I’m not sure if the Movies are following this same continuity. It’s suggested that it’s not because when T’Challa is defeated, Shuri, Nakia, and Ramonda flee to the Jabarie lands to offer the herb to M’Baku. HOWEVER, given the circumstances and the fact that neither Shuri nor Nakia had been raised and trained all of Theron lives to become the ruler of Wakanda, they may not have been privy to that information, as even in the comics the true nature of the Heart Shapes Herb is a CLOSELY guarded secret.
That’s also why I suspect there was an added advantage to making Kilmonger a relative of T’Challa. In the comics they are not related, however the circumstances of Kilmonger’s father ending up America is very similar between the two mediums (in the comics Kilmonger’s father is exiled after being FORCED to assist Klaue. And Kilmonger grows up wanting to avenge his father’s honor.)
But in a nutshell, there’s a reason why not just ANYBODY can consume the herb and become black Panther. The connection to Bast is always and ONLY through the bloodline of T’Challa’s family
It’s Tuesday now. Five days after release so I won’t spoiler this post but just in case SPOILER ALERT BELOW
From The Comic Canon. The Heart Shaped Herb has a secret fail safe, in that anyone NOT of the royal family lineage who consumes the Herb is poisoned. So even if you happen to defeat T’Challa, if you are not of his bloodline (brother, son, sister, Uncle, cousin, etc.) you will have an adverse reaction and die.
Now I’m not sure if the Movies are following this same continuity. It’s suggested that it’s not because when T’Challa is defeated, Shuri, Nakia, and Ramonda flee to the Jabarie lands to offer the herb to M’Baku. HOWEVER, given the circumstances and the fact that neither Shuri nor Nakia had been raised and trained all of Theron lives to become the ruler of Wakanda, they may not have been privy to that information, as even in the comics the true nature of the Heart Shapes Herb is a CLOSELY guarded secret.
That’s also why I suspect there was an added advantage to making Kilmonger a relative of T’Challa. In the comics they are not related, however the circumstances of Kilmonger’s father ending up America is very similar between the two mediums (in the comics Kilmonger’s father is exiled after being FORCED to assist Klaue. And Kilmonger grows up wanting to avenge his father’s honor.)
But in a nutshell, there’s a reason why not just ANYBODY can consume the herb and become black Panther. The connection to Bast is always and ONLY through the bloodline of T’Challa’s family
Depends. I wouldn’t say MBJ was on anything in particular and to your point I think he would generally work to maintain his look from Creed forward, within reason.
That said the flip side in general is that they are getting paid and because of that they would be more likely to take something to get movie ready. The level of that is debatable but I think most people would in some form.
Lupita has to be offered the role for Shuri (T'Challa's sister, who in the comics becomes a Black Panther herself). Easiest casting decision, imo
Hey @Birnin Zana remember all of our wild theories back in the day?
Those were good times...
caught up a lil bit, but not fully....i'll throw in my 2 cents about the topics going on in here:
- he was vengeful, hurt, angry, filled with hate/revenge, etc. but no, killmonger wasnt crazy...to call him that is a lazy way to dismiss the character buildup they did, and to side step having a real discussion about his motivations/end game....it's not a coincidence that most that are calling him that in reviews are non-black people....
- no, he wasnt sexist neither...i see people trying to say he mistreated women in the movie, when he didnt....yea, he did what he did to his love interest, but along with being his love interest, people ignoring she was his right hand person, so they were close....she knew what was up when that scene happened...she knew he had a goal, and nothing was going to stop him from achieving that, not even her....that's why she apologized for fukking up and putting herself in that situation, but she knew that train wasnt gonna stop, not even for her...as for the other scenes people using as examples: him choking the lady int he garden....that was just him being upset she didnt do what he said since he was the new king....if that wouldve been a male servant, the same wouldve happened to him...also, people ignoring he didnt kill her, he let her live, he just instilled fear in her/the others around......as for him not using the dora to help fight bp, he didnt have a choice in that....the dora were beside him until bp showed back up, and then they made the choice they did....w'kabi was on his side cause he was having the same thoughts as killmonger, and he felt a certain way cause killmonger gave him that gift...
...i'll catch up with the rest later and discuss...
- he was vengeful, hurt, angry, filled with hate/revenge, etc. but no, killmonger wasnt crazy...to call him that is a lazy way to dismiss the character buildup they did, and to side step having a real discussion about his motivations/end game....it's not a coincidence that most that are calling him that in reviews are non-black people....
- no, he wasnt sexist neither...i see people trying to say he mistreated women in the movie, when he didnt....yea, he did what he did to his love interest, but along with being his love interest, people ignoring she was his right hand person, so they were close....she knew what was up when that scene happened...she knew he had a goal, and nothing was going to stop him from achieving that, not even her....that's why she apologized for fukking up and putting herself in that situation, but she knew that train wasnt gonna stop, not even for her...as for the other scenes people using as examples: him choking the lady int he garden....that was just him being upset she didnt do what he said since he was the new king....if that wouldve been a male servant, the same wouldve happened to him...also, people ignoring he didnt kill her, he let her live, he just instilled fear in her/the others around......as for him not using the dora to help fight bp, he didnt have a choice in that....the dora were beside him until bp showed back up, and then they made the choice they did....w'kabi was on his side cause he was having the same thoughts as killmonger, and he felt a certain way cause killmonger gave him that gift...
...i'll catch up with the rest later and discuss...
W'Kabi gonna be actin like a bytch ass hater the whole movie
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