Official Black Panther Film Thread (SPOILERS)

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Killmonger' plan was stupid. If Thanos didn't exist (cuz even Wakanda couldn't do that alone, though they have the best chance) he should have been patient.

If he was really about it, I would have annexed some territory, slowly open up an expanded Wakanda to select black people worldwide. c00ns who possibly spy for another country like the states or Canada or a European country are executed.

If you have ever played a Civilization game then you'll know what I'm talking about. It's better to go for a cultural and scientific victory than conquest in this case. Once your tech is to the level that you are practically invincible then you can invade. Even then, I wouldn't go for conquest but instead remotely improve the stock of black people worldwide. If an unjust police shooting/brutality case occurs then there will be consequences, if outright discrimination occurs then consequences, racist comment to the media then consequences.

Bringing everyone to Wakanda is not a good idea, it will damage the culture that made it so successful in the first place. But allowing the diaspora to elevate their standard of living and education to greater heights is the better option.

Again, eventually, the fact you are so scientifically advanced and rich will allow you to become a world power or "rule" the world. In time.

Going around starting an unprepared war is stupid.

No offense, your idea is ridiculous. Doing it slowly more than likely would have sell-out Uncle Toms to spy on the Wakandans and steal the vibranium to these colonizing leaders. Patience is not an option, especially when you know you have the most superior weaponry and equipment. You have to catch them when they least expected with their pants down. The ONLY thing that these international government could do is ask for the Avengers for help, and they're split up.

Also, Killmonger is the type of person who wouldn't even allow c00ns admitted. He stated without remorse that he have killed black people in his past. Killing c00ns who step outta line is nothing. His plan was to send the weapons to the WAR DOGS who were in position. So, it wasn't going to be directly to the sellout c00ns, but those who are ready to actively fight to overthrow the governments. And Wakanda's tech is mastered to where it is impossible for people to invade. They actually have a FORCE SHIELD. And under Killmonger the country is still in secret hiding. Under T'Challa is why the world is revealed to what Wakanda really is with full invitation for all to come.

But to say Killmonger be patient only means as W'Baki stated, for the rest of the world to catch up. They have the FULL ADVANTAGE... why not use it? Who would stop them except people within? And the only reason for that was because Nakia stole the herb that Killmonger was trying to burn knowing it could be used to have a coup to overthrow him.
 

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No offense, your idea is ridiculous. Doing it slowly more than likely would have sell-out Uncle Toms to spy on the Wakandans and steal the vibranium to these colonizing leaders. Patience is not an option, especially when you know you have the most superior weaponry and equipment. You have to catch them when they least expected with their pants down. The ONLY thing that these international government could do is ask for the Avengers for help, and they're split up.

Also, Killmonger is the type of person who wouldn't even allow c00ns admitted. He stated without remorse that he have killed black people in his past. Killing c00ns who step outta line is nothing. His plan was to send the weapons to the WAR DOGS who were in position. So, it wasn't going to be directly to the sellout c00ns, but those who are ready to actively fight to overthrow the governments. And Wakanda's tech is mastered to where it is impossible for people to invade. They actually have a FORCE SHIELD. And under Killmonger the country is still in secret hiding. Under T'Challa is why the world is revealed to what Wakanda really is with full invitation for all to come.

But to say Killmonger be patient only means as W'Baki stated, for the rest of the world to catch up. They have the FULL ADVANTAGE... why not use it? Who would stop them except people within? And the only reason for that was because Nakia stole the herb that Killmonger was trying to burn knowing it could be used to have a coup to overthrow him.
killmonger qualifies as a buffoon because you joined the enemy's army to brutalize african people and then turn around and land on Wakanda as Nat turner ? i think not
 

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killmonger qualifies as a buffoon because you joined the enemy's army to brutalize african people and then turn around and land on Wakanda as Nat turner ? i think not
Brutalize African people? What are you talking about? Besides killing a few black people here and there is meaingless in the grand scheme of things...
 

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Brutalize African people? What are you talking about? Besides killing a few black people here and there is meaingless in the grand scheme of things...
i can accept it being meaningless, but i still question brothers like him who talk black liberation, but don't hesitate to burn and kill and dominate African people
 

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i can accept it being meaningless, but i still question brothers like him who talk black liberation, but don't hesitate to burn and kill and dominate African people
:yeshrug: its a movie. Besides I dint know what you're really talking about. Dudes who take necessary evils or african politicians?
 

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And Wakanda's tech is mastered to where it is impossible for people to invade. They actually have a FORCE SHIELD.

Nah you are overestimating their technological advantages. Sure they are superior to the rest of the world, but the gap isn't like Wakanda futuristic tech shyt vs a military with machine guns and tanks. I think you forgot how much shyt the Chitauri and Ultron left behind. Wakanda really isn't that far ahead of the rest of the world like everyone assumes. Go check out Spiderman for example. The Chitauri tech those street level goons had was crazy as fukk....a GRAVITY GUN to rob an ATM :wtf:. Who knows what the government/Stark have been doing with the Alien tech behind closed doors.

That war could have gone either way, and that's not even considering the Avengers involvement and the fact that Wakanda wouldn't have Shuri on their side.
 

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True he shouldve strengthened all of africa 1st before activating sleeper cells then fukk with russia and china but killmonger too extreme to ask for cac assistance

You are assuming that all of Africa would've went with his plan.

In addition, that in and of itself is a huge undertaking. You are taking about the second largest continent on earth with 50+ countries with their own agendas and their own ties to their neighbors and former colonial powers. How many resources would it have taken to pull that off?

Not saying it wasn't possible, but the scale of the plan was immense. If everyone was onboard, it would be one thing. But to have that much division and push back that early in the game? It would've backfired in a major ways
 

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You are assuming that all of Africa would've went with his plan.

In addition, that in and of itself is a huge undertaking. You are taking about the second largest continent on earth with 50+ countries with their own agendas and their own ties to their neighbors and former colonial powers. How many resources would it have taken to pull that off?

Not saying it wasn't possible, but the scale of the plan was immense. If everyone was onboard, it would be one thing. But to have that much division and push back that early in the game? It would've backfired in a major ways


Im not assuming they wouldve went along but i think that wouldve been the easier battle then just attacking america. U go to a country where nikkas is starving with the current regime he feeds em then they’ll ride for him. Strengthen their surrounding neighbors before the US comes in and sets up camp in those spots to attack but he wasnt patient enough to plan out anything just get the guns to the goons and pop off
 

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Won't be a bloodline when your army gets taken out lol there's a reason everyone else is fukking dying and turning into hulk/abominations trying to replicate that super strength serum. That's the ultimate standard power up for troops.

Only the royal bloodline can take the herb.

It wouldn’t make sense if anybody could take it because Wakanda’s enemies would have been taking the herb to destroy them. T’Challa’s family has a special connection to Bast which is why they can take the herb. They made Erik his cousin in the movie so this would all make sense.
 

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A quick review:

The movie was great. It has great action, the actors did a phenomenal job. The writing superb. The cinematography awesome.

Killmonger will appeal to the anger of black folks who want to strike back at white supremacy but all in all, he was a killer. He destroyed nations and that exactly what he was doing to Wakanda. He got rid of the king and began to break up the structure. He killed any and everyone to get towards his goal. He not someone to aspire to. His points are valid but his methods should not be copied...


It's disappointing to see so many champion and be anamored for a guy who disrespected wakandas customs, killed elders, killed females, freed Klaw and attempted to kill Shuri like it gave him pure glee to do so. Kill monger was very calculated with his plans and manipulation. He was a great villian, he was dealt a bad hand, he had valid points, his hatred but fukk him. He would've brought destruction to Wakanda and black people in general.


I wished they hadn't revealed his suit in the trailers. It would have added even more to his legendary status in the MCU.

U lost for watching marvel trailers.
#NOMOVIETRAILERSIN2018
 
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