Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong

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We haven't seen consistent and reputable (the most important factor) polls that show Biden in serious danger in MN. Most of the polls from MN that have come out were either Republican pollsters or average/mediocre pollsters. We haven't really seen highly-rated pollsters do MN yet in the past month.

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word..its good that hes spending there. at this point he should scale up the threshold for what states to spend on otherwise he will risk making it close. id say anything less than 6 or 7 up should be prioritized. i dont think hes up more than 5 or 6 in Minnesota realistically.
 

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word..its good that hes spending there. at this point he should scale up the threshold for what states to spend on otherwise he will risk making it close. id say anything less than 6 or 7 up should be prioritized. i dont think hes up more than 5 or 6 in Minnesota realistically.

I still think he needs to make appearances in the Midwest...
 

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Regardless, any attacks on Biden regarding him not supporting the use of law enforcement are rendered useless when Republicans bring up the crime bill or Kamala being a former prosecutor in the same sentence like they did yesterday. You can't have it both ways.

Either Biden is the Antifa General or he's King Cop. Which is it?
i feel like it would be so easy for the dems to double down on it. one strong statement/video from biden, pelosi and schumer that "we condemn violent rioting and property damage". is that really that hard? :snoop:

and then these pieces of shyt on the right don't have that talking point anymore. it's literally the cornerstone of trump's campaign right now :dead:
Where is this idea coming from that Republicans and Trump will refuse to use a line of attack simply because it's not factual? Joe Biden said he'd veto M4A if it passed both the House and Senate and yet we just watched every speaker at the RNC last night call him a communist, you think Republicans are afraid of cognitive dissonance? They live in it. They're manufacturing their own reality, they'll call Joe and Kamala whatever they want. The Democrats keep thinking this is chess but Trump and the Republicans are playing Calvinball, we shouldn't be determining our strategy based on Republicans being rational.
 

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He actually said shoot them in the leg instead.

But my real point is Biden can't and shouldn't say anything about the rioting that's happening because it is in response to something much worse. If he makes any non-politicians comment against it, he will lose a lot of voters. He should stick to "hey jack, open an investigation"

As usual, though you focus on the wrong things.
 

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He actually said shoot them in the leg instead.

But my real point is Biden can't and shouldn't say anything about the rioting that's happening because it is in response to something much worse. If he makes any non-politicians comment against it, he will lose a lot of voters. He should stick to "hey jack, open an investigation"

As usual, though you focus on the wrong things.

Not all of it is a response to something much worse there are a small group of people there who don’t care about the cause and just want to be apart of it and burn shyt down there a small percent but those need to be condemned

People vote with their wallet if they feel you’re not gonna protect their business because you’re afraid to upset someone who might vote for you they’ll vote for the other person
 

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Where is this idea coming from that Republicans and Trump will refuse to use a line of attack simply because it's not factual? Joe Biden said he'd veto M4A if it passed both the House and Senate and yet we just watched every speaker at the RNC last night call him a communist, you think Republicans are afraid of cognitive dissonance? They live in it. They're manufacturing their own reality, they'll call Joe and Kamala whatever they want. The Democrats keep thinking this is chess but Trump and the Republicans are playing Calvinball, we shouldn't be determining our strategy based on Republicans being rational.
This.

Biden can still come out and say those things about rioting but they'll just say he's not being sincere and really saying to riot even more. "Hes using code words to the radical left and antifa!"

Meanwhile Trump has already telegraphed that he will claim the election is rigged if he loses.

These creatures have no shame and can go lower than any of us can ever imagine.
 

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He should do that. Meet with union workers, frontline workers, etc. Have local press there, take questions, and dip.
Yeah, Joe & Kamala should travel to certain key states and hold small events with some voters and workers. Obviously, everyone should be tested beforehand and it should be in a closed setting.

He & Kamala can also continue doing those press conferences in Wilmington. Maybe, they are waiting for the RNC to be over, IDK.
 

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Where is this idea coming from that Republicans and Trump will refuse to use a line of attack simply because it's not factual? Joe Biden said he'd veto M4A if it passed both the House and Senate and yet we just watched every speaker at the RNC last night call him a communist, you think Republicans are afraid of cognitive dissonance? They live in it. They're manufacturing their own reality, they'll call Joe and Kamala whatever they want. The Democrats keep thinking this is chess but Trump and the Republicans are playing Calvinball, we shouldn't be determining our strategy based on Republicans being rational.
You can use lines of attack all you want but the best ones aren't open to interpretation or dissonance.

It shows me that Trump and his campaign still can't paint Joe like they did Hillary.

Evil, crooked, establishment, bitter, etc all hit with people across wide demographics not just the MAGA base. Many people on the left agreed, some minorities agreed, and swing voters also ran with it. There was nothing dissonant that they were messaging at the same time. I'm not seeing the same with Biden.
 
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