Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)
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God Almighty
Your Lord
The Fukin Prophecy
RIP Champ
The only thing that can prevent Trump losing is COVID...
I am 100% sure Rethgulicans are betting on leveraging COVID to suppress the vote, hence why they've spent the summer allowing the virus to run rampant across the country while doing their best Baghdad Bob impersonation...They are also working hard to block mail in voting...
Congress has to approve postponing the election which isn't happening...Rethuglicans just want low Dem voter turnout though...Their voters, the rural dumbfukk red neck sister fukking trailer park trash murikkka will show up to the polls...It's the cities where Dems get the bulk of the votes Rethuglicans want to suppress and COVID will most certainly play a roll in that...
DrDealgood
Superstar
what may still be underestimated is the sheer level of trump cheating and fukkery he can do to try and stay in power
when he knows he can go to jail and his shyt ass kids - and if he even cares - the R party can be ruined for potentially a long time - there's no telling what he can try
Just How Far Can Trump Go in an Emergency?
Trump will be tempted to draw on the far-reaching and hidden powers that are the legacy of the Cold War. When he invoked the Stafford Act and the National Emergencies Act in mid-March, Trump claimed, “I have the right to do a lot of things that people don’t even know about.” Alas, Trump is right about this. The “presidential emergency action documents” that he’s inherited and also new ones he could issue are a storehouse of extra-constitutional authority.
Writing in The New York Times in April, Elizabeth Goitein and Andrew Boyle, both at the Brennan Center for Justice, noted, “It is not far-fetched to think that we might see the deployment of these documents for the first time and that they will assert presidential powers beyond those granted by Congress or recognized by the courts as flowing from the Constitution.”
when he knows he can go to jail and his shyt ass kids - and if he even cares - the R party can be ruined for potentially a long time - there's no telling what he can try
Just How Far Can Trump Go in an Emergency?
Trump will be tempted to draw on the far-reaching and hidden powers that are the legacy of the Cold War. When he invoked the Stafford Act and the National Emergencies Act in mid-March, Trump claimed, “I have the right to do a lot of things that people don’t even know about.” Alas, Trump is right about this. The “presidential emergency action documents” that he’s inherited and also new ones he could issue are a storehouse of extra-constitutional authority.
Writing in The New York Times in April, Elizabeth Goitein and Andrew Boyle, both at the Brennan Center for Justice, noted, “It is not far-fetched to think that we might see the deployment of these documents for the first time and that they will assert presidential powers beyond those granted by Congress or recognized by the courts as flowing from the Constitution.”
Reality Check
Keepin' it 100
Sounds like Nate Silver still has PTSD over how wrong he was in 2016.
He wasn't wrong. From what I remember, 538 gave Trump a greater chance than anyone.
Regardless, Trump still has a 20-25% chance to win right now. That's doesn't mean Biden is a sure lock, there's no such thing. The probability just points to him winning at this point.
Spades Of Aces
The Infinity Watcher
It seems that everything is pointing in Biden ‘s favor but....ugh. I can’t help but have this feeling that Trump will surprise everyone again.
Listen, if that happens that's on America.
If he is reelected, black folk may want to find a country to wait out the shyt storm.
Election Day (November 3rd) is 100 days from now. 100 days ago was April 17 - that was just over a week after Bernie officially dropped out. Bernie dropping out was just the other day. This horrible year is going by fast.
Anyways, if you look at pretty much all of the polls, one of the most important cross-tabs is the voters who hate both candidates. Among voters who hate both Biden and Trump, Biden is consistently winning those voters by a WIDE margin. That's the election right there. Game over for Trump.
Trump got lucky in 2016 in that he had no political record to run on and Hillary was just as disliked as him. In 2016, voters who hated both Trump and Hillary pulled the lever hard for Trump over Hillary ("I'll give Trump a chance. Maybe, the office will change him"). In 2020, things are different because Trump now has a political record and Biden is not nearly as disliked as Hillary.
Biden is going to win the election. The question is how decisive will Biden's victory be - a narrow victory? a decisive victory? a landslide victory? I lean towards a landslide victory for Biden but obviously things aren't set in stone. Finally, the biggest question for this election is will Democrats get control of the Senate? That depends on if this election is just a repudiation of Trump or the entire Republican Party.
Anyways, if you look at pretty much all of the polls, one of the most important cross-tabs is the voters who hate both candidates. Among voters who hate both Biden and Trump, Biden is consistently winning those voters by a WIDE margin. That's the election right there. Game over for Trump.
Trump got lucky in 2016 in that he had no political record to run on and Hillary was just as disliked as him. In 2016, voters who hated both Trump and Hillary pulled the lever hard for Trump over Hillary ("I'll give Trump a chance. Maybe, the office will change him"). In 2020, things are different because Trump now has a political record and Biden is not nearly as disliked as Hillary.
Biden is going to win the election. The question is how decisive will Biden's victory be - a narrow victory? a decisive victory? a landslide victory? I lean towards a landslide victory for Biden but obviously things aren't set in stone. Finally, the biggest question for this election is will Democrats get control of the Senate? That depends on if this election is just a repudiation of Trump or the entire Republican Party.
Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
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Holy shyt. Dude is just hated by every classic republican group
And his supporters are so brainwashed they’ll start antagonizing people they glorified 4 years ago
Will this be the final number? Probably not. But something to think about when comparing the two elections.
Hillary and Trump had wide swings in their numbers throughout that campaign. There were 3rd party candidates siphoning off votes here and there. No incumbent, big scandals, tons of disinformation, actual conventions, rallies, etc, etc.
I’m just saying, while its easy to make comparisons between now and 2016, its better to just treat it as its own race.
the cac mamba
Veteran
i hear you
but the thing is that its trump who only has down to go, not biden. because the only way trump can turn it around is by curing the virus and safely reopening the country
meanwhile, every day that he doesnt exposes his failure and lying
If WI didn’t prove your theory wrong then I don’t know what to tell you...
Dems came out in full force despite the rona and the courts knocking down mail in voter ballots... The Dem challenger to the WI scotus seat beat the gop incumbent
There won’t be low dem turn out, it hasn’t been since 2018.