Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

Dusty Bake Activate

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I got a son being born in early November. If he arrives on the same day Trump loses :banderas:
So that corny ass Cam Newton stan who I have on ignore negged me for this post? :wtf:

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fukk is wrong with some of you?
 
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You can keep telling yourself that if you want, but Russiagate and Ukrainegate didn’t do jackshyt to Trump. His approval rating went UP after both. Nobody even remembers Trump was impeached and for what anymore.

Whenever his approval rating has gone down it was been due to horrible crisis management...

-Charlottesville
-Government shutdown
-Covid-19 pandemic
-George Floyd murder and protests

If it wasn’t for the pandemic and police murder protests, he’d still be in a fairly strong position to win.
Wrong. Again, the Russia investigation definitely played a part in weakening Trump and the Republican Party in the run up to the 2018 election.

And yes, people still remember he was impeached.

Those scandals did negatively effect him, not in the short term, but definitely long-term IMO. If anything, all of these events probably did far more to unite the Democratic Party than anything else. That’s a negative result.

Yeah, he’d still be in a strong position if things were normal re:economy and public health, but they aren’t.

It all adds up.
 

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Wrong. Again, the Russia investigation definitely played a part in weakening Trump and the Republican Party in the run up to the 2018 election.

And yes, people still remember he was impeached.

Those scandals did negatively effect him, not in the short term, but definitely long-term IMO. If anything, all of these events probably did far more to unite the Democratic Party than anything else. That’s a negative result.

Yeah, he’d still be in a strong position if things were normal re:economy and public health, but they aren’t.

It all adds up.
That’s what you say, but you have nothing to back it up empirically. After both the Russia investigation and Ukrainegate were concluded, his approval rating went up and hit some of the highest marks of his presidency. Facts.

Post-Mueller Report, Trump Approval Back at 45% High

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d27014-5d0b-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...-rise-post-impeachment-acquittal-poll-1486339

Trump approval rating hits new high in Gallup poll, despite impeachment trial

His polls started to dip in a sustained way after he kept fukking his covid response then after Floyd he tanked and doesn’t seem to be climbing his way out.

I don’t know why liberals have to keep trying to insist that Mueller and Ukraine did anything to Trump when it’s so obvious it didn’t. Accepting the reality that they didn’t hurt him politically doesn’t mean what he did in either case was ok or acceptable.
 
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That’s what you say, but you have nothing to back it up empirically. After both the Russia investigation and Ukrainegate were concluded, his approval rating went up and hit the highest some of the highest marks of his presidency. Facts.

Post-Mueller Report, Trump Approval Back at 45% High

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d27014-5d0b-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...-rise-post-impeachment-acquittal-poll-1486339

Trump approval rating hits new high in Gallup poll, despite impeachment trial

His polls started to dip in a sustained way after he kept fukking his covid response then after Floyd he tanked and doesn’t seem to be climbing his way out.

I don’t know why liberals have to keep trying to insist that Mueller and Ukraine did anything to Trump when it’s so obvious it didn’t. Accepting the reality that they didn’t hurt him politically doesn’t mean what he did in either case was ok or acceptable.
I disagree that it did not hurt him politically but for argument sake even if you’re right those actions galvanized the Democratic base which was worth it alone. The 2018 blue wave happened in part to impeach Trump and if they failed to do that I would argue that it would have depressed Democratic enthusiasm
 

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That’s what you say, but you have nothing to back it up empirically. After both the Russia investigation and Ukrainegate were concluded, his approval rating went up and hit the highest some of the highest marks of his presidency. Facts.

His polls started to dip in a sustained way after he kept fukking his covid response then after Floyd he tanked and doesn’t seem to be climbing his way out.

I don’t know why liberals have to keep trying to insist that Mueller and Ukraine did anything to Trump when it’s so obvious it didn’t. Accepting the reality that they didn’t hurt him politically doesn’t mean what he did in either case was ok or acceptable.
And those bumps weren’t sustained either. Approval ratings are more a reflection of Trump’s supporters than anything else. They were purely reactions from his base and a small minority of independents who thought Trump was getting a raw deal.

Those numbers miss the story of Democrats’ rising enthusiasm during and after both of those events. They very much helped solidify the Democratic Party’s opposition to the Trump Presidency. Sorry breh, that’s a negative effect.
 

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Sorry but 2018 was no "blue wave". Democratic victory? Yes. Wave election? No.

As nice as taking over the House and beating Walker, Kobach, etc. was, Republicans still controll majority of State Legislatures, gained seats in the Senate and had DeSantis and Kemp win their races.
 

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Sorry but 2018 was no "blue wave". Democratic victory? Yes. Wave election? No.

As nice as taking over the House and beating Walker, Kobach, etc. was, Republicans still controll majority of State Legislatures, gained seats in the Senate and had DeSantis and Kemp win their races.
Wrong.. There wasn't a blue wave...it was a blue tsunami.. Democrats picked up a historic amount of seats and flipped Republican strongholds also.
 

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Wrong.. There wasn't a blue wave...it was a blue tsunami.. Democrats picked up a historic amount of seats and flipped Republican strongholds also.
and in a midterm year :banderas:turnout will only go up

shyt, think about literally how many new dem voters turned 18, and how many trump voters probably died off, since 2016 :dead:
 

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Wrong.. There wasn't a blue wave...it was a blue tsunami.. Democrats picked up a historic amount of seats and flipped Republican strongholds also.
We agree to disagree then

Was 2018 even worse than 2014 breh?

I'm asking because 2014 isn't even touching 2010...
 
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