Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

[Dusty Bake Activate]

America and the Soviet Union allied to take down the Nazis, this is an analogous situation. I’m sure Democrats and Neo-Cons will stop being buddy buddy after Trump is out. Until then we need a right wing flank continuing to put that heat on Trump and Lincoln project has done a great job

Perhaps.

I think Trump’s response to covid-19 to and the police murders are what finally sinks him. I’m not convinced they’re having an electoral impact. It’s just #resistanceporn.

 

[Outlaw]

Perhaps.

I think Trump’s response to covid-19 to and the police murders are what finally sinks him. I’m not convinced they’re having an electoral impact. It’s just #resistanceporn.

It’s porn for us but if those Lincoln project ads can convince some moderate Republicans in swing states to vote for Biden or not vote at all then it’s mission accomplished

 

[Uno Venova]

Not rocking with Satan isn’t acting holier than thou. The neocons in and affiliated with them are some of worst humanity has to offer.

Trump will be gone either way. Don’t try and convince me I gotta rock with Bill Kristol, dikk Cheney, and the people who brought us Sarah Palin to oppose Trump. I don’t care if their ads are funny. The Lincoln Project can eat a dikk.

Bullshyt, he has mass voter suppression on his side and a company pulling republicans, moderates and independents from him helps.

 

[Outlaw]

Bullshyt, he has mass voter suppression on his side and a company pulling republicans, moderates and independents from him helps.

Not taking about Mephistopheles but these purity progressive talking heads are so annoying, it’s like they cannot understand nuance and in politics you definitely have to be comfortable operating in the grey area. The old adage of the enemy of my enemy is my friend is true in this instance

 

[MoneyTron]

You got a very serious point (unfortunately). I forgot these are the very same Republicans that enabled Trump and let him off the hook during the impeachment trial. Then because it's 4 1/2 months before the election they are going to do nothing. Either way if that shyt starts to blow up in the media, Trump is going to have even more shyt on his hands.

This is far worse than Benghazi. Democrats need to bring out the big hammer here.

Hitting Trump on the military is a definite soft spot along with the economy. Hurt him on those two fronts and he’ll fold.

 

[Piff Perkins]

My confidence in Whitmer 2024 is a big reason why I'm good with her being VP right now. Ideally, Biden's VP would be THE candidate in 2024. That way we avoid a primary fight and just have a smooth transition.

Idk why, I've mentioned this before, but I still get empty suit vibes from Kamala. I don't mind her as VP right now, but I can't see her leading the party in 2024.

Whitmer has a better shot in 2024 than Kamala for sure. I think there would be backlash and resentment over the first woman president being black (if Biden were to step down before term end). She doesn't strike me as a national candidate whereas Whitmer could be. But then again Whitmer was treading water in Michigan before the virus hit. She's done a great job and clearly has been vindicated when you look at what's happening in Texas and Florida.

But VP should not be chosen based on 2024, it should be chosen based on 2020. Kamala and Warren would be weak presidential candidates but are the best VP picks right now. In 2024 you'd expect republicans to nominate a Trump sycophant anyway which would be electoral poison for them.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

It’s porn for us but if those Lincoln project ads can convince some moderate Republicans in swing states to vote for Biden or not vote at all then it’s mission accomplished

I doubt they’re changing a single vote. Trump is toast in November unless they suppress the vote.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Bullshyt, he has mass voter suppression on his side and a company pulling republicans, moderates and independents from him helps.

Not sure why you think Republican neocons making silly ads shytting on Trump is pulling in moderates and independents. Biden pretty much has them in the bag anyway. It’s preaching to the MSNBC choir.

Being proactive against voter suppression should be the focus.

 

[Outlaw]

Not sure why you think Republican neocons making silly ads shytting on Trump is pulling in moderates and independents. Biden pretty much has them in the bag anyway. It’s preaching to the MSNBC choir.

Being proactive against voter suppression should be the focus.

It’s a net positive to argue the opposite is silly. Even if what you’re saying is true at least the ads are increasing enthusiasm on the anti trump side.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

It’s a net positive to argue the opposite is silly. Even if what you’re saying is true at least the ads are increasing enthusiasm on the anti trump side.

I guess. It’s still fukk em though.

I don’t think they are essential to a Trump loss.

 

[Outlaw]

I guess. It’s still fukk em though.

I don’t think they are essential to a Trump loss.

Can you explain to me how you can stan the show Rising who has an obnoxious and overt Trump supporter/apologist as the lead host but have issue with a Republican media wing who is actively opposing Trump?

 

[mastermind]

"There's a better chance Donald Trump doesn't run, than win re-election."

Carville was talking big shyt on MSNBC yesterday. He also had some choice words for the Dem consultant class I've been shytting on for weeks.

Carville is part of the Dem consultant class. I wish he would stfu.

 

[mastermind]

This isn't logical and isn't going to happen. Wisconsin's SC already created precedent for an election being help (ie the primary Biden won, and where a democrat won a seat on the SC). Wisconsin also has a democrat secretary of state, who will ensure poll stations remain open on election day.

wont matter when you aren’t allowed to vote:


Recently in Wisconsin, the Democratic Party and its voters were able to win a seat on the state Supreme Court. This was very important in terms of stopping Republicans' efforts to purge Democratic voters and likely supporters from the voting rolls. The Republican Party of course is pushing back. What is going on in Wisconsin at present?

The Democrats are in real trouble. I just spoke with one of the election commissioners in Wisconsin. There is a right-wing group suing to force the state to remove a quarter of a million voters. This group was able to get a court to agree with them.

Now the case is going to the Wisconsin State Supreme Court — which is what that whole primary in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic was about. The Republicans insisted on having a vote during the virus because they thought that would block voters in Milwaukee who would be too afraid to come out and vote. It was partly true, but enough people in Milwaukee risked death to come out and vote. The number of polling stations in Milwaukee went from 180 to just five.

The Democrats were so happy because despite the Republican Party's impediments and interference, the Democratic-backed judge won. The Democrats thought that would be the end of it and that the voter rolls were safe. That would not be the case. The Republican candidate who lost then did something unheard of in my years of being involved with the courts: He un-recused himself.

The very man who lost that election is now going to hear the case in July and vote on it. Wisconsin may still remove 250,000 voters. This is extremely dangerous for democracy. If the Republicans succeed in removing those quarter million voters — concentrated in Madison, where the students are, and in Milwaukee, where African-Americans are concentrated — that is 10 times Trump's 2016 vote margin in the state. How do you overcome that thumb on the electoral scale? We have got to be very concerned about how the Republicans are using mass purges of voters in swing states to stay in power.



Journalist Greg Palast: Here's how Trump will steal the election

 

[Wild self]

wont matter when you aren’t allowed to vote:


Recently in Wisconsin, the Democratic Party and its voters were able to win a seat on the state Supreme Court. This was very important in terms of stopping Republicans' efforts to purge Democratic voters and likely supporters from the voting rolls. The Republican Party of course is pushing back. What is going on in Wisconsin at present?

The Democrats are in real trouble. I just spoke with one of the election commissioners in Wisconsin. There is a right-wing group suing to force the state to remove a quarter of a million voters. This group was able to get a court to agree with them.

Now the case is going to the Wisconsin State Supreme Court — which is what that whole primary in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic was about. The Republicans insisted on having a vote during the virus because they thought that would block voters in Milwaukee who would be too afraid to come out and vote. It was partly true, but enough people in Milwaukee risked death to come out and vote. The number of polling stations in Milwaukee went from 180 to just five.

The Democrats were so happy because despite the Republican Party's impediments and interference, the Democratic-backed judge won. The Democrats thought that would be the end of it and that the voter rolls were safe. That would not be the case. The Republican candidate who lost then did something unheard of in my years of being involved with the courts: He un-recused himself.

The very man who lost that election is now going to hear the case in July and vote on it. Wisconsin may still remove 250,000 voters. This is extremely dangerous for democracy. If the Republicans succeed in removing those quarter million voters — concentrated in Madison, where the students are, and in Milwaukee, where African-Americans are concentrated — that is 10 times Trump's 2016 vote margin in the state. How do you overcome that thumb on the electoral scale? We have got to be very concerned about how the Republicans are using mass purges of voters in swing states to stay in power.



Journalist Greg Palast: Here's how Trump will steal the election

Yeah, Dems better go smash Wisconsin and make sure that voter suppression gets sledgehammered to the ground.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Can you explain to me how you can stan the show Rising who has an obnoxious and overt Trump supporter/apologist as the lead host but have issue with a Republican media wing who is actively opposing Trump?

Because I don’t stan people. I like honest critical discussion. I already know what my principles are. I like shows like Rising and Democracy Now! that have good honest fruitful discussion and guests that are informative on a variety of issues.