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Wasn’t enough campaigning I guess. Enlighten me, what did Bernie’s campaign do to make the south a voting stronghold for himself? One would assume a person running under Bernie’s platform would do far better. Or at least would find ways to counter Biden’s status as former VP to Obama.
It’s hard to counter when liberal media like MSNBC and CNN are literally running negative coverage against you for the last 5 years. They’ve spent the last year demonizing his voters to the general populace. Biden literally did damn near nothing in SC and ran away with it. That tells you all you need to know. He spent money and time there but it didn’t matter.
 

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Wasn’t enough campaigning I guess. Enlighten me, what did Bernie’s campaign do to make the south a voting stronghold for himself? One would assume a person running under Bernie’s platform would do far better. Or at least would find ways to counter Biden’s status as former VP to Obama.
He had activist campaigning there full time and spent more money there than anyone but Bloomberg. The fact is, there is no progressive movement in most parts of the south. Their politics is entirely different than the upper half of the country. There are progressive challengers to centrists all the time up north, not so much in the south. Doug Kones won Alabama largely because the progressive black mayor of Birmingham created the entire infrastructure for Democrats in Alabama from scratch. The South has a lot of prosperous black cities and suburbs but it also has the poorest, least educated and most under sourced black vote - it’s have and have nots situation. Every progressive policy has always skipped them or underserved them - people vote more of trust and relationships than any idea. It’s a decision I disagree with but it’s not irrational. Bernie Sanders is a new deal democrat, but the new deal skipped most black people. Most government programs seldom trickle down to southern black folk. It’s why a guy like Bloomberg could throw his money around.

It’s what annoys me about the people on this board who used results to claim their nonsensical personal tales had anything to do with what the data says. Simply put, Bernie Sanders was never going to have a better relationship with Democratic policy makers than the former Vice President nor with black people. It was always his race to lose and the shifts in polling had more to do with White people moving around. If states with heavy black populations voted earlier there would have been no Klobuchar, Pete, Warren or anyone else. It would’ve come down to Biden and Sanders from day one.
 

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99% of the time this is true. Revolution is almost always bloody. But I kinda agree with Malcolm when he said this might be one of the only places ever in history where a bloodless revolution is possible.

With that said, I really hope Bernie cultivates the next crop of young progressive politicians on the backend. If he can’t win, he should at least work to build the progressive wing.

And that's the context I'm using. I've seen it with my very own eyes participating in a two front wat like war. People's lives legitimately upset and they have to stay over from scratch. It's been ten years since I've been to Iraq and that country is still in recovery.

Based on how corrupt politics and government is, a revolution sounds fitting but I don't know if that's the real answer.
 

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if bernie couldnt beat biden in a campaign, how the fukk does he beat trump :yeshrug:

i mean seriously :dead: can you please explain the thought process?
They can never answer this. Bernie was going to beat Trump but couldn’t get past a disliked Hillary Clinton or Biden.

oh wait, the DNC rigged it and forced voters to choose Biden.
 

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They can never answer this. Bernie was going to beat Trump but couldn’t get past a disliked Hillary Clinton or Biden.

oh wait, the DNC rigged it and forced voters to choose Biden.
I just did and it’s a simple answer. Independents aren’t partisan hacks who vote their party like a religion
 

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I just did and it’s a simple answer. Independents aren’t partisan hacks who vote their party like a religion
Your answer is fukking stupid. What good is it to win the independents if you lose the majority of democratic moderates in the process? I wasn’t voting for Bernie under any circumstance :mjlol:
 
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