Official Bernie Sanders HQ: Not Me, Us!

[AnonymityX1000]

Someone link me to all the meltdowns from TYT and Jimmy Dore

Jimmy already turned the page and has been shytting on Sanders for the last couple of weeks for his bad campaign. You missed it. lol

 

[tremonthustler1]

Bernie Bros going out like bytches on social media

 

[wtfyomom]

Your answer is fukking stupid. What good is it to win the independents if you lose the majority of democratic moderates in the process? I wasn’t voting for Bernie under any circumstance

So you were cool with trump winning? This is the Biden voter y’all but progressives should reach out lmfao

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

It’s hard to counter when liberal media like MSNBC and CNN are literally running negative coverage against you for the last 5 years. They’ve spent the last year demonizing his voters to the general populace. Biden literally did damn near nothing in SC and ran away with it. That tells you all you need to know. He spent money and time there but it didn’t matter.

He had activist campaigning there full time and spent more money there than anyone but Bloomberg. The fact is, there is no progressive movement in most parts of the south. Their politics is entirely different than the upper half of the country. There are progressive challengers to centrists all the time up north, not so much in the south. Doug Kones won Alabama largely because the progressive black mayor of Birmingham created the entire infrastructure for Democrats in Alabama from scratch. The South has a lot of prosperous black cities and suburbs but it also has the poorest, least educated and most under sourced black vote - it’s have and have nots situation. Every progressive policy has always skipped them or underserved them - people vote more of trust and relationships than any idea. It’s a decision I disagree with but it’s not irrational. Bernie Sanders is a new deal democrat, but the new deal skipped most black people. Most government programs seldom trickle down to southern black folk. It’s why a guy like Bloomberg could throw his money around.

It’s what annoys me about the people on this board who used results to claim their nonsensical personal tales had anything to do with what the data says. Simply put, Bernie Sanders was never going to have a better relationship with Democratic policy makers than the former Vice President nor with black people. It was always his race to lose and the shifts in polling had more to do with White people moving around. If states with heavy black populations voted earlier there would have been no Klobuchar, Pete, Warren or anyone else. It would’ve come down to Biden and Sanders from day one.

Thanks for your answers. Both superb. And perhaps this is what I was getting at when I said I’d like to see Bernie work to actually build up a real progressive wing or even a political party. There’s plenty of citizens whom are adversely affected both by Trump and status quo corporate Dems. There’s plenty of potential voter capital in this country within many different demographics.

Building up a real progressive movement will also be long term insurance by also adding new candidates to local, state, and federal elections which further pushes the political agenda to the left.

And that's the context I'm using. I've seen it with my very own eyes participating in a two front wat like war. People's lives legitimately upset and they have to stay over from scratch. It's been ten years since I've been to Iraq and that country is still in recovery.

Based on how corrupt politics and government is, a revolution sounds fitting but I don't know if that's the real answer.

Absolutely. Most people that say it don’t really realize what it entails. The Civil War was about as close as we got and that was a rebellion/secession. Issues from that and Reconstruction were never resolved which is partly why we find ourselves at this current point.

Would be nice if there was a progressive version of the Radical Republicans from the Reconstruction era in Washington and they just bullied their way to new policies.

 

[OfTheCross]

Bernie Sanders drops out of 2020 presidential race as Joe Biden surges

Its over brehs.

Let's continue to fight for local change, brehs. It starts from the bottom.

 

[No1]

They can never answer this. Bernie was going to beat Trump but couldn’t get past a disliked Hillary Clinton or Biden.

oh wait, the DNC rigged it and forced voters to choose Biden.

I don’t know who you’re replying to but the answer to that is simple and we have. The people who voted for Clinton and Biden never disliked Bernie - they just had greater relationships to the people he lost to and you know that. Pretending that you don’t is the cause of progressives flipping out - you’re not even surrendering that basic fact. I’m over here saying they need greater relationships and you’re trying to flip it into something about likeability or policy - none of the data supports that really - aside from some public option stuff.

Anyway, the reason those people are confident that Bernie would beat Trump is because there’s is no evidence that black people aren’t going to vote at a 90 percent rate for the Democratic nominee. Meanwhile, he would put up Obama type numbers with young people and is dominant with Hispanics and Latinos. Unless the suburbs completely run away, all the stats favor him winning - including his dominance with independents. That is quite literally the reason people were mad. This isn’t some Jill Stein shyt - the numbers said he was more or less just as strong as Biden. But that’s all in the past.

 

[OfTheCross]

 

[Miles Davis]

What’s your point?

This man out here stirring shyt up, think this shyt the nba

 

[No1]

Bernie Bros going out like bytches on social media

Ayo, please leave the Bernie Bro smear out of this thread. As @tru_m.a.c once said, why do people come in a Sanders supporter thread to pop shyt? It makes you guys look desperate for attention.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I'm ready for that 3rd party anti-capitalist energy

As long as we have to make our arguments from inside the white supremacist tent of the dem party we'll always be forced to water down our message and our vision. Give the people a clear choice and force them to stand for something.

 

[Atlrocafella]

Bernie is a two time primary loser because the majority of democratic voters don’t like him, and have now shown him this twice.

This is all I need to see. All that other shyt irrelevant

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

The progressive movement will live and die with southern black folks and older black people. What Bernie couldn’t convince them of is that this time will be different. And I don’t know how to either. I’ve never organized in the south.

While this is true, we shouldn't be so quick to let southern and mid-western whites off the hook either. Bernie's policies would have obviously helped all those hundreds of thousands of poor black people who didn't support him more, but the margin in Biden's lead would have been significantly lower had Bernie not lost so much of his 2016 voters in the later primaries.

I don't mean to be overly morbid or insensitive, but the only thing that will change things in the south is death. Bernie's greatest margins of support come from the youth. Older generations aren't going to change their ways. The culture is what it is.

 

[A Cop]

Prepare yourselves, Bernie Brehs.

Despite the fact that about 90% of us will vote for Joe Biden, we are going to be blamed for his loss to Trump. The centrists never learn. They turn on MSNBC and actually believe what they are being told. Consider what we have learned: The Democratic party's true purpose is to shut down any movement on the left and allow the fascists to take over.

Of course, all signs point to Trump indefinitely postponing the election, so, lmao

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I'm ready for that 3rd party anti-capitalist energy

As long as we have to make our arguments from inside the white supremacist tent of the dem party we'll always be forced to water down our message and our vision. Give the people a clear choice and force them to stand for something.

The infastructure it would take to build might take too long. I'm for doing both. Let's build a third party while holding Dems feet to the fire for their bad ideas on how to win/lead.

 

[SunZoo]

I'm ready for that 3rd party anti-capitalist energy

As long as we have to make our arguments from inside the white supremacist tent of the dem party we'll always be forced to water down our message and our vision. Give the people a clear choice and force them to stand for something.

The DNC is dishonorable, no way in hell should he honor that agreement and let this movement and his celebrity just dissipate.