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Legit question no trolling.

Why did y’all believe in a revolutionary who had no track record of even getting any of his basic agenda through in 15+ years as a senator?

Why believe someone’s Michael Jordan when he’s never made a shot? (Only analogy I can think of)
Of course your reasonings center around contextless numbers of "getting his track record through". You might as well say "winning percentages" hence the sports analogy. I dont see this shyt as a spectator sport where you cheer on old people in suits yelling at each other. But I can understand how political dikkriding is the only way someone can justify getting behind Biden. It sure as fukk isn't agenda or vison.

A politician getting "wins" that create despair and inequality isnt a positive to me, nor is a politician failing to pass a sensible good bills due to the vermin that infest Capitol Hill a negative. It says more about the corruption of our system.

Biden's pride and joy of his legislative career was making the crime bill, a "win" he secured by getting Republicans on board through the allure of making it so they can imprison black folks for most of their lives. fukk every bit of that.
 

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Okay. Another genuine question for Bernie black voters.

Community health centers are the driving force for health care resources for poor blacks.

The black “political establishment” decided to write a bill using the best black minds to increase funding to these health centers. Clayburn approved the final version of the bill and then it was given to Bernie for him to take lead and collaborate with the black community, we’ll before the election.

Sanders and Clyburn Introduce Bill to Expand Community Health Centers


WASHINGTON, March 28 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.) announced legislation Thursday to extend and expand funding for community health centers and the National Health Service Corps. If Congress doesn’t act by September 30th, community health centers will lose the federal funding they need to keep their doors open.

Community health centers provide high-quality primary medical, dental, mental health care, substance use disorder treatment, and low-cost prescription drugs to 28 million people in 11,000 communities in every state in the country.

Sanders and Clyburn’s bill would allow 5.4 million more Americans to receive the primary care they need. The National Health Service Corps provides scholarships and loan-repayment to over 10,000 clinicians each year working in underserved communities, often in health centers.

"In the richest country in the world, no American should have to go without basic health care. Community health centers are a critical lifeline for millions of Americans, and we must build upon their success by expanding them to everyone who needs them," Sanders said.

“I have often described the Affordable Care Act as the Civil Rights Act of the 21st Century because it banned many forms of discrimination in the healthcare system. The ACA was a critical piece of legislation that also dramatically expanded the federal funding for community health centers. This legislation builds on the steps taken by the ACA to further expand community health centers by ensuring the millions of Americans who get primary care from community health centers continue to receive care and expands access to more medically-underserved communities,” Clyburn said.

Under this bill, community health centers and the National Health Service Corps will see a 10 percent increase in funding each year for five years. The legislation also includes $4.6 billion for capital projects, which will allow community health centers across the nation to modernize their facilities and expand the scope of services they offer to better address the opioid epidemic and to meet the health care needs of an expanding patient base.

Each year, community health centers generate more than $24 billion in savings to the entire U.S. healthcare system. Over 220,000 people are employed by community health centers, and they generate nearly $55 billion in total economic activity.

Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) are co-sponsors of the legislation in the Senate and 57 Members in the House are cosponsoring the legislation.

Organizations endorsing the legislation include: National Association for Community Health Centers; The Association of Clinicians for the Underserved; National Medical Association; The National Birth Equity Collaborative; National Black Nurses Association; Mental Health America; Morehouse School of Medicine; National Center for Transgender Equality; The African American Health Alliance; Southeast Asia Resource Center; Black Women’s Health Imperative; National Indian Council on Aging; National Hispanic Council on Aging; Diverse Elders Coalition; Alliance for Headache Disorders Advocacy; The National LGBTQ Task Force; and The National Caucus and Center on Black Aging, Inc.


Now when election time comes. We “expected” some sort of financial guarantee to community Health centers from the candidates. Bernie himself admits m4all would take 10 years to come into place.

community health center funding could help the black community immediately.


Bernie however refused State he would allocate a guaranteed amount of money to the community health centers in his agenda.

Bernie Sanders on Healthcare

Community Health Centers
Community health centers (CHCs) and school-based health centers (SBHCs) provide primary medical, dental, mental health care, substance use disorder treatment, and low-cost prescription drugs to 28 million people in 11,000 communities in every state across the country. They have received additional funding through the Affordable Care Actto support and expand their services.

Medicaid expansion is only effective if clinics, doctors, and hospitals accept it. That’s why Bernie fought hard to include a provision in the ACA to fund new Community Health Centers. It was a deft move that The Intercept described as making an “indelible mark on American healthcare, extending the number of people served by clinics from 18 million before the ACA to an expected 28 million next year.” This move allowed progressive Democrats to vote in approval of the ACA despite the elimination of a public option.

In 2019, Bernie introduced legislation with Rep. James Clyburn to fund and expand Community Health Centers and the National Health Service Corps, which supports healthcare providers who work in underserved communities and provides scholarships and loan-repayment to over 10,000 clinicians each year.

The Sanders and Clyburn’s bill would allow 5.4 million more Americans to receive the primary care they need.

Here’s a video of the news conference where Bernie introduced the bill.”


Meanwhile Biden guaranteed doubling funding under his administration

  • Doubling America’s investment in community health centers. Community health centersprovide primary, prenatal, and other important care to underserved populations. In 2015, 59% of patientsat community health centers were people of color and one quarter were uninsured. The Biden Plan will double the federal investment in these centers, expanding access to high quality health care for the populations that need it most.
So even after working tirelessly to work with Bernie before the election and handing him the bill. He still didn’t give us anything when he had the power to do so.


why should I have voted for Bernie over Biden, when Biden promises tangible healthcare funding for my communities poorest people immediately instead of waiting for a decade for something that may happen?

And why did bernie not give us anything when we did everything we could to work with him?
 

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Damn. Black people will get it the worst though. I don’t want that for my people.
Neither do I but they made their bed, so they’re gonna lie in it. We showing loyalty to motherfukkers who don’t show it to us. The very same people who will use us as a shield against legitimate criticism.
Of course your reasonings center around contextless numbers of "getting his track record through". You might as well say "winning percentages" hence the sports analogy. I dont see this shyt as a spectator sport where you cheer on old people in suits yelling at each other. But I can understand how political dikkriding is the only way someone can justify getting behind Biden. It sure as fukk isn't agenda or vison.

A politician getting "wins" that create despair and inequality isnt a positive to me, nor is a politician failing to pass a sensible good bills due to the vermin that infest Capitol Hill a negative. It says more about the corruption of our system.

Biden's pride and joy of his legislative career was making the crime bill, a "win" he secured by getting Republicans on board through the allure of making it so they can imprison black folks for most of their lives. fukk every bit of that.
Isn’t this the bill he referred to as the “crack house” bill?
 

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Okay. Another genuine question for Bernie black voters.

Community health centers are the driving force for health care resources for poor blacks.

The black “political establishment” decided to write a bill using the best black minds to increase funding to these health centers. Clayburn approved the final version of the bill and then it was given to Bernie for him to take lead and collaborate with the black community, we’ll before the election.

Sanders and Clyburn Introduce Bill to Expand Community Health Centers


WASHINGTON, March 28 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.) announced legislation Thursday to extend and expand funding for community health centers and the National Health Service Corps. If Congress doesn’t act by September 30th, community health centers will lose the federal funding they need to keep their doors open.

Community health centers provide high-quality primary medical, dental, mental health care, substance use disorder treatment, and low-cost prescription drugs to 28 million people in 11,000 communities in every state in the country.

Sanders and Clyburn’s bill would allow 5.4 million more Americans to receive the primary care they need. The National Health Service Corps provides scholarships and loan-repayment to over 10,000 clinicians each year working in underserved communities, often in health centers.

"In the richest country in the world, no American should have to go without basic health care. Community health centers are a critical lifeline for millions of Americans, and we must build upon their success by expanding them to everyone who needs them," Sanders said.

“I have often described the Affordable Care Act as the Civil Rights Act of the 21st Century because it banned many forms of discrimination in the healthcare system. The ACA was a critical piece of legislation that also dramatically expanded the federal funding for community health centers. This legislation builds on the steps taken by the ACA to further expand community health centers by ensuring the millions of Americans who get primary care from community health centers continue to receive care and expands access to more medically-underserved communities,” Clyburn said.

Under this bill, community health centers and the National Health Service Corps will see a 10 percent increase in funding each year for five years. The legislation also includes $4.6 billion for capital projects, which will allow community health centers across the nation to modernize their facilities and expand the scope of services they offer to better address the opioid epidemic and to meet the health care needs of an expanding patient base.

Each year, community health centers generate more than $24 billion in savings to the entire U.S. healthcare system. Over 220,000 people are employed by community health centers, and they generate nearly $55 billion in total economic activity.

Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) are co-sponsors of the legislation in the Senate and 57 Members in the House are cosponsoring the legislation.

Organizations endorsing the legislation include: National Association for Community Health Centers; The Association of Clinicians for the Underserved; National Medical Association; The National Birth Equity Collaborative; National Black Nurses Association; Mental Health America; Morehouse School of Medicine; National Center for Transgender Equality; The African American Health Alliance; Southeast Asia Resource Center; Black Women’s Health Imperative; National Indian Council on Aging; National Hispanic Council on Aging; Diverse Elders Coalition; Alliance for Headache Disorders Advocacy; The National LGBTQ Task Force; and The National Caucus and Center on Black Aging, Inc.


Now when election time comes. We “expected” some sort of financial guarantee to community Health centers from the candidates. Bernie himself admits m4all would take 10 years to come into place.

community health center funding could help the black community immediately.


Bernie however refused State he would allocate a guaranteed amount of money to the community health centers in his agenda.

Bernie Sanders on Healthcare

Community Health Centers
Community health centers (CHCs) and school-based health centers (SBHCs) provide primary medical, dental, mental health care, substance use disorder treatment, and low-cost prescription drugs to 28 million people in 11,000 communities in every state across the country. They have received additional funding through the Affordable Care Actto support and expand their services.

Medicaid expansion is only effective if clinics, doctors, and hospitals accept it. That’s why Bernie fought hard to include a provision in the ACA to fund new Community Health Centers. It was a deft move that The Intercept described as making an “indelible mark on American healthcare, extending the number of people served by clinics from 18 million before the ACA to an expected 28 million next year.” This move allowed progressive Democrats to vote in approval of the ACA despite the elimination of a public option.

In 2019, Bernie introduced legislation with Rep. James Clyburn to fund and expand Community Health Centers and the National Health Service Corps, which supports healthcare providers who work in underserved communities and provides scholarships and loan-repayment to over 10,000 clinicians each year.

The Sanders and Clyburn’s bill would allow 5.4 million more Americans to receive the primary care they need.

Here’s a video of the news conference where Bernie introduced the bill.”


Meanwhile Biden guaranteed doubling funding under his administration

  • Doubling America’s investment in community health centers. Community health centersprovide primary, prenatal, and other important care to underserved populations. In 2015, 59% of patientsat community health centers were people of color and one quarter were uninsured. The Biden Plan will double the federal investment in these centers, expanding access to high quality health care for the populations that need it most.
So even after working tirelessly to work with Bernie before the election and handing him the bill. He still didn’t give us anything when he had the power to do so.


why should I have voted for Bernie over Biden, when Biden promises tangible healthcare funding for my communities poorest people immediately instead of waiting for a decade for something that may happen?

And why did bernie not give us anything when we did everything we could to work with him?
Because that's all Biden is willing to do. He doesn't think M4A is feasible.


People are sick of the half measures, we want to the whole enchilada. It was a softball he could have said yes because the scenario is so unlikely that was presented. Instead he goes to the Republican talking point of how are we going to pay for that? That's not what we are looking for.
 

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Because that's all Biden is willing to do. He doesn't think M4A is feasible.


People are sick of the half measures, we want to the whole enchilada. It was a softball he could have said yes because the scenario is so unlikely that was presented. Instead he goes to the Republican talking point of how are we going to pay for that? That's not what we are looking for.



But why won’t bernie give us something we desperately wanted and attempted to work with him on.

if black ppl asked for one big thing for us and brought it to him first. Why was it politically advantageous for him to say no to that instead of yes until m4all passed?
 

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But why won’t bernie give us something we desperately wanted and attempted to work with him on.

if black ppl asked for one big thing for us and brought it to him first. Why was it politically advantageous for him to say no to that instead of yes until m4all passed?
I don't know write him a letter or something. And I love because a few Black politicians worked on it (as well as white ones), it was from ALL Black people collectively. WE aka Black people didn't do anything, nice try tho.
 

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I don't know write him a letter or something. And I love because a few Black politicians worked on it (as well as white ones), it was from ALL Black people collectively. WE aka Black people didn't do anything, nice try tho.
Lmao @ a few bought out politicans supposedly being "us". Having " Our" back. Where has this nikka been the past half century?

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I don't know write him a letter or something. And I love because a few Black politicians worked on it (as well as white ones), it was from ALL Black people collectively. WE aka Black people didn't do anything, nice try tho.


Nope it was written by black folks. And it wasn’t a few black politicians it was many. One of the most comprehensive bills for black healthcare specifically in almost a decade.

They got presidential hopefuls to co-sign it but none of em wrote it. We begged Bernie to co-lead which he did knowing it’d fail.

but that wasn’t enough for him to give us money to build healthcare centers for black ppl in his healthcare plan.
 

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Nope it was written by black folks. And it wasn’t a few black politicians it was many. One of the most comprehensive bills for black healthcare specifically in almost a decade.

They got presidential hopefuls to co-sign it but none of em wrote it. We begged Bernie to co-lead which he did knowing it’d fail.

but that wasn’t enough for him to give us money to build healthcare centers for black ppl in his healthcare plan.
That's like saying the movie Moonlight was written by Black people therefore it represents all of us. :dame:
And it's not for Black Healthcare specifically. In your own post it says, " 59% of patientsat community health centers were people of color . . . " It doesn't even say Black but PoC. :unimpressed:
Why beg Bernie to co-lead if this legislation is so Black? Why not Corey Booker? Or is Bernie Blacker than he is? :mjlol:
 

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That's like saying the movie Moonlight was written by Black people therefore it represents all of us. :dame:
And it's not for Black Healthcare specifically. In your own post it says, " 59% of patientsat community health centers were people of color . . . " It doesn't even say Black but PoC. :unimpressed:
Why beg Bernie to co-lead if this legislation is so Black? Why not Corey Booker? Or is Bernie Blacker than he is? :mjlol:


It was an outreach to Bernie to start working on healthcare issues with black leaders
 
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