Joe is checked out man
he ran cause he can’t stand Trump and feels like he would have beaten him in 2016...
But when he was waffling last year on whether he’d run or not, his aides waiting and waiting, it’s clear his heart isn’t in it
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he ran cause he can’t stand Trump and feels like he would have beaten him in 2016...
But when he was waffling last year on whether he’d run or not, his aides waiting and waiting, it’s clear his heart isn’t in it
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Oh who was proposing M4A besides Bernie and actually wasn't on some,"I was for it before I was against it" shyt?
This was really good
Can a Bernie bro explain how at this moment a case for government run healthcare is being made?
Please explain how single payer systems around the world are shytting on our system at this moment?
I dont think this pandemic isnt the talking point B-bros think it is... at least not yet.
storyteller
Superstar
PoorAndDangerous
Superstar
Why do people think the government literally takes over and controls the hospitals????
Can a Bernie bro explain how at this moment a case for government run healthcare is being made?
Please explain how single payer systems around the world are shytting on our system at this moment?
I dont think this pandemic isnt the talking point B-bros think it is... at least not yet.
the government provides the insurance you fukking doofus
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Testing had to be announced as free here. Countries with universal healthcare that was a given.
Can a Bernie bro explain how at this moment a case for government run healthcare is being made?
Please explain how single payer systems around the world are shytting on our system at this moment?
I dont think this pandemic isnt the talking point B-bros think it is... at least not yet.
storyteller
Superstar
Can a Bernie bro explain how at this moment a case for government run healthcare is being made?
Please explain how single payer systems around the world are shytting on our system at this moment?
I dont think this pandemic isnt the talking point B-bros think it is... at least not yet.
The speed of a nation's response to the illness, extent of response, preparedness (things like inventory) are more important than what healthcare system is in place. But the idea behind single payer being better is that it can help mitigate the damage. An example of that would be people who might not go to get tested because they can't afford it or don't have insurance. In a single payer system, you completely avoid that issue. There's also the idea that you'd be able to maintain consistent messaging, approach and guidance with a connected system. Just to throw it in, I'm extremely worried that our numbers above are going to get worse. That's because of our trajectory...
We're short on supplies, going to be low on beds and I'm concerned that the lack of proper equipment will promote spread among the medical staff of this country (seriously concerned based on convos with friends at hospitals). Hard to say beyond speculation that a single-payer could benefit those circumstances. I think having an interconnected system would help with coordinating resources but that's no guarantee, I admit.
The other thing is that in an economic downturn, I think the idea of tying insurance to employment will start to look more flimsy. Again, that's speculative.
Oh you believe there is no quality, or efficiency difference between privately run sectors and government run sectors
Fair enough.
Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
Why does anyone need to explain anything to you? The optics are our healthcare system looks trash in the light & voters agree it need a change
Can a Bernie bro explain how at this moment a case for government run healthcare is being made?
Please explain how single payer systems around the world are shytting on our system at this moment?
I dont think this pandemic isnt the talking point B-bros think it is... at least not yet.
Oh you believe there is no quality, or efficiency difference between privately run sectors and government run sectors
Understand one thing. This isn't about the quality of treatment at all. This is about managing a country's CAPACITY for intensive medical care.
As this thing runs on, the states and federal government is going to have to take the beds in private run hospitals, so quality of care won't make a difference. I was asking about my private health insurance in the UK and the NHS already commandeered the beds.
Bottom line, M4A could have facilitated a better response, but FEMA and the CDC should have trained and been prepared for these scenarios as well. Having an incompetent president who thinks everything will eventually disappear has been America's wildcard.
Agreed... but I believe its too early to pass judgment on the systems response.
Agreed
Whether Bernie's M4A plan is the change we need is where we likely disagree.
FooFighters
Superstar
Well... he won Utah. Still counting California and Colorado
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