Official Bernie Sanders HQ: Not Me, Us!

[TheDarceKnight]

1. fukk you
2. He still might have a delegate lead coming out of Super Tuesday, so why drop out? Seriously, that would be terrible optics for the progressive movement. People are still willing to fight and it’s honestly not over. At the very least we can push for Biden to adopt SOME sort of policy we could be excited about. We have to continue trying to push these people to the left.

What I hate about the Right as well as respect about them on some level is they never get tired about pushing their agenda and pushing for the things they want. Win or lose. There's a defeatist attitude on the left (even I have the urge to feel that way today) that I think is problematic for us. It's harder for us because we are fighting against a giant mainstream media machine, but the point is that the Rs never get too beat down and defeated when they lose and they still keep showing up and voting for the people they want and the policies they want. We should keep doing the same.

The ultimate underlying movement towards anti-establishment politics isn't going away anytime soon (on the left or the right).

 

[Micky Mikey]

Could Bernie still run third party?

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

Assuming Biden wins my ballot in November will be:
Prez: Biden vs Trump. Wack Moderate vs Republican
Senate: MJ Helgar vs Cornyn. Wack Moderate (used to be a Republican) vs Republican
House: Lizze Fletcher vs Wes Hunt. Wack Moderate vs black Republican

I'll go vote in November, only because of Trump, but this is the absolute last time I am voting for a Dem just because the Republican is bad. These three could sweep the ticket and wouldn't do anything meaningful.

Good job to Bernie for at least giving people like me an option. Hopefully in 2022,2024 and beyond we can eventually get better people on the ticket.

 

[Json]

THIS is who America voted for. If you’re worried about healthcare and climate change and still voted against your interests you deserve everything coming in Nov

You are still acting like people don’t do this everyday

Ask people if they want clean air and water.
You’ll get 90%

Tell them you’ll need to raise gas prices to 5 a gallon and it’s f__k that clean air.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[storyteller]

Unfortunately a lot of people don’t vote on policy. They vote on feel. The majority of the voters in VA and Maine agreed with M4A. They even supported getting rid of private insurance. And they still voted for Biden. It i is sad but it’s reality.

The scary thing for me is that I think as the general approaches, some of the issues that the media hasn't covered will be raised whether people think they should be fair game or not. Trump has been trying to build up that Burisma stuff to the point of getting himself impeached and Biden's gaffes are scary bad. The Dem candidates soft peddled those electability issues, but the Republicans will jump on them. What's worse, any Dem bringing them up would get dog piled by the establishment in spite of the fact that those are fair game for Trump and his cronies.

Negative partisanship is gonna have to do some serious heavy lifting for the Dems to win a Biden ticket...I still think that's possible though since Trump is so awful.

 

[OfTheCross]

Could Bernie still run third party?

No point. We're winning the nomination, breh.

This shyt ain't supposed to be easy.

 

[goatmane]

Part of the professional class left thinks that the next step is we grow DSA to 200k members then we go to South Carolina and tell them we need to Abolish ICE. Then we run AOC in 2032 and save the planet from climate change. Movement politics! We had no chance with older black voters and Virginia moderates but I’m not looking forward to the takes lol

One thing I believe hurts the left AND Dems is the Abolish ICE shyt while looking like the perception is that they ignore specific black policies .

The Obama aura worked with Biden voters. But deep down, they felt like Biden understood them more than Bernie

 

[Json]

The scary thing for me is that I think as the general approaches, some of the issues that the media hasn't covered will be raised whether people think they should be fair game or not. Trump has been trying to build up that Burisma stuff to the point of getting himself impeached and Biden's gaffes are scary bad. The Dem candidates soft peddled those electability issues, but the Republicans will jump on them. What's worse, any Dem bringing them up would get dog piled by the establishment in spite of the fact that those are fair game for Trump and his cronies.

Negative partisanship is gonna have to do some serious heavy lifting for the Dems to win a Biden ticket...I still think that's possible though since Trump is so awful.

Not really.

Politics has turned into one sided voter pushing.

Unless Trump actually has info on Hunter Biden all the Burisma stuff will do is remind Dems everyday that the Republicans didn’t convict him and that it was crappy corruption.

Trump is actually in a dangerous position since he’s not trying to win Dem or independent voters.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Last night definitely stings considering how close we were. But the powers that be weren’t gonna ever let it happen. But you’ve gotta realize that in order to rout a movement you need to them feel despair and you feel despair the most right as your about to win and have it snatched from you.

We just gotta keep fighting, we gotta do more on the ground level specifically with teens. Gotta get them energized to voting and community service.

Breh, I hear you. But banking our futures for a better society by targeting people who aren't old enough to drive yet doesn't instill much confidence or inspiration right now.



I'm on broken record mode, but the fact that Biden ran away with Super Tuesday when he was outraised and sleep walked through 2019 and into 2020 leaves me practically speechless.

Had Booty Judge or Klobuchar ran away with Super Tuesday outta nowhere I would have been shocked, and probably more pissed since they're worse than Joe, but it would have been semi-understandable. I'd be pissed, but still determined.

This Biden shyt is soul crushing because it shows that on a national level, certain constants are not malleable AT ALL. You can't out organize or out energize some roadblocks to progress. And that's pretty damn disheartening.

 

[storyteller]

Not really.

Politics has turned into one sided voter pushing.

Unless Trump actually has info on Hunter Biden all the Burisma stuff will do is remind Dems everyday that the Republicans didn’t convict him and that it was crappy corruption.

Trump is actually in a dangerous position since he’s not trying to win Dem or independent voters.

Burisma stuff will be enough to suppress that subset of voters are conspiratorial on the left. And Biden's inability to speak coherently at times is going to be more and more an issue to regular voters, I don't think that stuff can be covered up when everyone starts watching more closely. We literally have to count on people ignoring them, not catching enough of them or deciding that Trump is worse which sounds easy enough except that we've seen the white voting base unconcerned with Trump in one election already and against a stronger candidate.

 

[Json]

Burisma stuff will be enough to suppress that subset of voters are conspiratorial on the left. And Biden's inability to speak coherently at times is going to be more and more an issue to regular voters, I don't think that stuff can be covered up when everyone starts watching more closely. We literally have to count on people ignoring them, not catching enough of them or deciding that Trump is worse which sounds easy enough except that we've seen the white voting base unconcerned with Trump in one election already and against a stronger candidate.

No one is going to be looking at the rally speeches and I doubt they will be looking at the debates going forward.

Joe got it. If Sanders keeps pushing this, he will be beaten by bigger and bigger margins as his disaffected voters trail off and people just coalesce.

I told people in here what the problem was with that us vs them mentality. You start losing and people will chose not you.

Trump has ammo against Biden but let’s not act like he hasn’t given the Dems a trove of material for their base as well.

Whoever Biden picks as his VP will be a backstop the same way he was for Obama.

 

[FAH1223]

Breh, I hear you. But banking our futures for a better society by targeting people who aren't old enough to drive yet doesn't instill much confidence or inspiration right now.



I'm on broken record mode, but the fact that Biden ran away with Super Tuesday when he was outraised and sleep walked through 2019 and into 2020 leaves me practically speechless.

Had Booty Judge or Klobuchar ran away with Super Tuesday outta nowhere I would have been shocked, and probably more pissed since they're worse than Joe, but it would have been semi-understandable. I'd be pissed, but still determined.

This Biden shyt is soul crushing because it shows that on a national level, certain constants are not malleable AT ALL. You can't out organize or out energize some roadblocks to progress. And that's pretty damn disheartening.

I think the campaign had an admirable strategy but they really should have just focused on normie Dems more

Not that Bernie had to change what he believes. But these people are so into semantics. And inspirational platitudes. It’s quite simple in some respects

Also the campaign in some states didn’t reach out to more prominent natural allies to serve as surrogates. And some more center left types.. argggg

 

[OfTheCross]

I still think Bernie got this. Can't overreact...

Once all the Super Tuesday delegates are allocated, it'll be a near tie with Biden or Bernie leading.

I'm going to reiterate that from no going forward the most important States to worry about are the swing States in the General election of electability is the #1 concern.

So...

Michigan
Wisconsin
Ohio
Indiana
Florida
Iowa
and NC

 

[Json]

Breh, I hear you. But banking our futures for a better society by targeting people who aren't old enough to drive yet doesn't instill much confidence or inspiration right now.



I'm on broken record mode, but the fact that Biden ran away with Super Tuesday when he was outraised and sleep walked through 2019 and into 2020 leaves me practically speechless.

Had Booty Judge or Klobuchar ran away with Super Tuesday outta nowhere I would have been shocked, and probably more pissed since they're worse than Joe, but it would have been semi-understandable. I'd be pissed, but still determined.

This Biden shyt is soul crushing because it shows that on a national level, certain constants are not malleable AT ALL. You can't out organize or out energize some roadblocks to progress. And that's pretty damn disheartening.

I think people underestimate how much the fact he trounced Bernie and others inSC mattered.

Bernie set the narrative he had the numbers and organization. And by Nevada he had proven both.

And then he got his butt kicked.


It’s always more impressive to win with a Hail Mary with .01 on the board than playing solid fundamental for 4 quarters.