Official Bernie Sanders HQ: Not Me, Us!

[duncanthetall]

Nah, I'm not hearing that. Voter suppression is real and def happens every election, but Bernie didnt get drowned in all these states because of it.

Just like 2016, people need to just face the facts and place the blame where it belongs. THE VOTERS.

It wasnt Russia, 3rd Party voters, non-voters, and Bernie Bros that put Trump in office. Blame the people that voted against their best interests and voted for Trump over Hillary.

Same goes here. If you're poor working class and you voted for Biden because you get a warm tingly feeling inside thinking about that picture you saw of Obama laughing and hugging Biden, you gotta hold that L.

Doesn't matter that the warm tingly feeling you felt inside was really the beginning of renal failure that will eventually bankrupt you and your family and kill you as well.

I dont see tonight as being that complicated. I thought the allure of Obama nostalgia would not be enough to prevent people from demanding real change in this country.

I was wrong. The end.

We can be mad, dejected, whatever. But we gotta be realists. At least in this thread we can call it how we see it. I’ve lived around southern black voters my whole life. fukk I am a southern black voter. But we have a lot of work to do. I’m envious and jealous looking at how Latinos have congregated around a politician that would improve their livelihood easily based off policies. fukk

 

[duncanthetall]

Bernie Sanders should drop out.


I hate to say this, but I see zero chance that he can overtake Biden now.

Here's why:


1. Which delegate-rich states are left that Bernie can win? Only some of the midwestern states, and even in the most optimistic of scenarios, Bernie won't win by more than 10-15 points. He could theoretically win all of Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania. But it's probably more likely that he will LOSE all of them. To be honest, I only feel good about his chances in Wisconsin and Michigan out of those.


2. Even IF Bernie wins all of Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania (and that's a big "if") it wouldn't be enough. Even IF Bernie wins each of Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania by 15 points (which I think is basically impossible), it wouldn't be enough.

You know why? Because Bernie will continue to get absolutely annihilated in the south. He will get annihilated in Florida and Georgia, which have lots of delegates. Add that to losing smaller states like Mississippi or Louisiana by 40-50 points, and you can see how impossible it is to find delegates elsewhere to overcome those margins.

1. fukk you
2. He still might have a delegate lead coming out of Super Tuesday, so why drop out? Seriously, that would be terrible optics for the progressive movement. People are still willing to fight and it’s honestly not over. At the very least we can push for Biden to adopt SOME sort of policy we could be excited about. We have to continue trying to push these people to the left.

 

[mitter]

1. fukk you
2. He still might have a delegate lead coming out of Super Tuesday, so why drop out? Seriously, that would be terrible optics for the progressive movement. People are still willing to fight and it’s honestly not over. At the very least we can push for Biden to adopt SOME sort of policy we could be excited about. We have to continue trying to push these people to the left.

What on earth makes you think he's going to have a delegate lead coming out of Super Tuesday?

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

What on earth makes you think he's going to have a delegate lead coming out of Super Tuesday?

Depending on how well he does in Cali, Bernie may be either slightly behind or slightly ahead of Biden. Why should he drop out if it's that close?

 

[duncanthetall]

What on earth makes you think he's going to have a delegate lead coming out of Super Tuesday?

I thought Cali’s hadn’t been factored in yet. I’m stupid. Apologies.

 

[Tical]

Worst part is going to be seeing complete valueless politicians like Buttegeig and Klobuchar get jobs in the Biden admin, boost their profiles further and then use that to run again and give us even more centrism in the future. Just like Obama's admin is giving us Biden now. Its just shyt piling onto shyt over and over again.

 

[duncanthetall]

Double post

 

[duncanthetall]

Worst part is going to be seeing complete valueless politicians like Buttegeig and Klobuchar get jobs in the Biden admin, boost their profiles further and then use that to run again and give us even more centrism in the future. Just like Obama's admin is giving us Biden now. Its just shyt piling onto shyt over and over again.

Honestly...kinda another reason part of me wouldn’t be too mad at Biden’s bid failing. Ya know besides the whole Supreme Court shyt. We really don’t need a new generation of super charged moron moderates empowered by next level Obama ratfukking. These guys need to sink by either losing as Voltron to Bernie or against the president or else we’re never gonna get a proper progressive movement.

 

[Mook]

Rich are impossible to beat, how did they have a ready made shill in Warren ready to detail a progressive movement? We can't beat these dudes

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Rich are impossible to beat, how did they have a ready made shill in Warren ready to detail a progressive movement? We can't beat these dudes

Its Bernie's fault.
He is letting warren & biden attack him but doesnt retaliate.

 

[Oville]

Okay I'm coming in hot but I've been harping on this. If Biden stays steady and goes on to win we weren’t “robbed”, they've successfully outmaneuvered Bernie due to failures of our left media and progressive organizations. Warren was always a wrecker and should have been vigorously opposed from the beginning. We had a small window back in January with the centrists clustered but we lost the race in May when Warren's campaign was saved due to the plan war.

Thanks to likes of Ryan Grim, David Klion, Emma V, Sam Seder, TYT and other unity progressive liberals, Warren was laundered as an acceptable option through the summer and how it was good for the movement. I posted this link in the primary thread back in May but no one quoted it cause everyone was so excited about her gaining in the polls Elizabeth Warren decries big money in politics. Her campaign treasurer embodies it. – Center for Public Integrity

There was absolutely no real resistance to her campaign until the fall and by then it was too late. I'm not tryna be an a$$hole but anyone who did not oppose her from the start cannot be trusted to accurately diagnose what just happened. There isn't a single progressive media outlet or twitter person who comes out of this intact. They are all complicit.

These progressive organizations/media are completely swallowed by liberalism and their careers. The Bernie campaign itself inseparable from that left media and progressive activist complex. Bernie is just a guy at the top of it but the whole thing is very media/activist and that's the problem. This is exactly like Labour, these people are so disconnected with the base they so desperately want.

Part of the professional class left thinks that the next step is we grow DSA to 200k members then we go to South Carolina and tell them we need to Abolish ICE. Then we run AOC in 2032 and save the planet from climate change. Movement politics! We had no chance with older black voters and Virginia moderates but I’m not looking forward to the takes lol

No hard feelings though and still got love, It’ll be fun to get laughed at in news cycle after news cycle with y’all I feel bad for Bernie but I don’t feel bad for any of our favorite lefty media people who are whining about us being robbed lol

I was with Bernie all the way but I don't think the reason we lost today was we didn't attack her. Her campaign became a non-factor by the time it was time to vote. What we shoulda done (I'm not sure if we actually did this) is reach out to her team prior to Super Tuesday. Her dumb ass thought that she would have a chance once it got to the convention tho so not sure if even that woulda worked.

Either way, I think people blaming the fact that we didn't distinguish ourselves from Warren early as the reason this happened wouldn't have changed much cuz her campaign had floundered months before the Iowa caucus.

 

[Oville]

I was with Bernie all the way but I don't think the reason we lost today was because we didn't attack Warren early. Her campaign became a non-factor by the time it was time to vote. What we shoulda done (I'm not sure if we actually did this) is reach out to her team prior to Super Tuesday. Her dumb ass thought that she would have a chance once it got to the convention tho so not sure if even that woulda worked.

Either way, I think people blaming the fact that we didn't distinguish ourselves from Warren early as the reason this happened are mistaken. It wouldn't have changed much cuz her campaign had floundered months before the Iowa caucus.

 

[OfTheCross]

Good morning.


Joe Biden's Super Tuesday comeback


Can someone explain why there are unawarded delegates from last night ?

What states are they from and who's going to get them?

 

[Mook]

Its Bernie's fault.
He is letting warren & biden attack him but doesnt retaliate.

It's his fault cause he threw black people under the bus AGAIN. He literally lost the same way he did the first time lmao.

What an idiot. Prioritize trannies and Latinos over black people.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

It's his fault cause he threw black people under the bus AGAIN. He literally lost the same way he did the first time lmao.

What an idiot. Prioritize trannies and Latinos over black people.

How?