NSA Wiretapping and Snowden on the run
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theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
If you are a man of principle and you are against government spying and oppression then you stand up to government spying and oppression wherever it happens
Has snowden spoken out about government spying and government oppression in china, Russia and Ecuador? If he hasn't he is not a man of principle
yseJ
Empire strikes back
sorry but you are clearly stupid
you have this mantra of 'just because other countries are doing it then this means its ok'
the principle in this case is exposing OUR government. chinas and russias government are known to be oppressive and spying. thats not the point. he isnt saying they arent oppressive, hes just trying to get a place where he wont be found dead
but listen to you and he shouldve stayed here as a dead martyr
for the last time, he didnt say that US government made him not want to live here. he said he did it for public awareness of the fact that what this government says publicly and does behind closed doors is discrepant.
he isn't comparing it to china or russia or any other country. he most likely doesnt care to.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
sorry but you are clearly stupid
you have this mantra of 'just because other countries are doing it then this means its ok'
the principle in this case is exposing OUR government. chinas and russias government are known to be oppressive and spying. thats not the point. he isnt saying they arent oppressive, hes just trying to get a place where he wont be found dead
but listen to you and he shouldve stayed here as a dead martyr
for the last time, he didnt say that US government made him not want to live here. he said he did it for public awareness of the fact that what this government says publicly and does behind closed doors is discrepant.
he isn't comparing it to china or russia or any other country. he most likely doesnt care to.
And you aren't listening, nothing he has exposed has been shown to be illegal and why is he going out of his way to exposes us government spying against china and then goes to china?
The other explanation as to why he went to china and doesn't speak out about their oppression is that he's a spy and traitor
yseJ
Empire strikes back
why would he talk about china's oppression, again ? so china can extradict him back to the US ?
AGAIN, you seem to think that if one speaks out against US government doing stupid shyt, they have to speak out against all goverments doing stupid shyt.
do you see how retarded that sounds ?
and shyt he exposed clearly violates 4th amendment, which the last time IVe checked was constitution AKA the law here
NubianVitruvian
Retired
I'm in Canada. No one is stopping me from saying anything. You aren't doing anything to protect my rights to speak. You promote Government Surveillance. Your logic is non existent. Agreeing with your masters does not protect your rights. Go read Animal Farm. You
Actually, let's set this straight. To lead is to serve. The government serves We the People. The servant, the government, is spying on its Master, the People. If Snowden is a snitch, he snitched to We the People. And look at how our servants respond.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
why would he talk about china's oppression, again ? so china can extradict him back to the US ?
AGAIN, you seem to think that if one speaks out against US government doing stupid shyt, they have to speak out against all goverments doing stupid shyt.
do you see how retarded that sounds ?
and shyt he exposed clearly violates 4th amendment, which the last time IVe checked was constitution AKA the law here
That is exactly what I am saying, if you speak out against something you speak out on it wherever you see it, if not I can't respect it and I have zero respect for snowden
And it's an open question whether its against the 4th amendment becuase the courts, congress and the president approved it
Patrick Kane
Superstar
Who are they protecting you from? An invasion from Russia? China? A "terrorist" attack?
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
I'm in Canada. No one is stopping me from saying anything. You aren't doing anything to protect my rights to speak. You promote Government Surveillance. Your logic is non existent. Agreeing with your masters does not protect your rights. Go read Animal Farm. You
Actually, let's set this straight. To lead is to serve. The government serves We the People. The servant, the government, is spying on its Master, the People. If Snowden is a snitch, he snitched to We the People. And look at how our servants respond.
By we I assume you mean North Americans and not the Chinese and Russians being oppressed, languishing in jail and work camps
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/18/w...ed-russian-punk-band.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/w...osing-chinas-forced-labor.html?pagewanted=all
Ai Weiwei says blind dissident's escape will inspire Chinese
If you motherfukers are anti American that's cool, but don't say you are fighting for freedom, if you are for freedom you fight oppression wherever it it exists
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Who are they protecting you from? An invasion from Russia? China? A "terrorist" attack?
yeah a terrorist attack and they are protecting you from china and russia
badvillain
Rookie
Every dev/programmer/it person has known this has been going on forever, but there was no evidence to confirm it. Now there is and there's people like you saying dumb shyt like "What you so upset about though?" and "If you have nothing to hide it shouldn't matter".
These politicians have taken the government hostage breh. They openly shytted on the 4th and 1st amendment and only a small percentage of the population even gives two shyts. That's why I'm mad. And they just fukking hacked Hastings benz and drove him into a tree.
The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.
I'm not waiting for the no fly list to turn into the no one flies list. They are about to get this immigration bill through which will standardize biometric national ids. Couple that with NSA, and you can literally find any one in the system via cameras and track them in real time.
And to the stupid smart motherfukker talking shyt about it's legal. These corrupt motherfukkers have shytted on the bill of fukking rights and made this bullshyt legal. It's a violation of basic human rights.
our government should answer to us.
Those other governments have no obligation to us.
for example - I don't feel that women should cheat on men... I can do what I need to do to keep my relationship happy... I have no control over other guys relationships. All I can do is say,"keep ur bytch in check" And I can't even do that much.. I can't even campaign for all these other relationships- when my lady is having interracial gangbangs every other night, secretly filming it, sending my mother the sex tapes and also spitting sperm on the pillow I sleep on at night.
That is what this nation is doing to it's people.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
you lost with me with the gangbanging stuff, chill with the graphicals
but anyways i disagree that the chinese or russians government doesnt have to answer, either you are down for freedom or not, i dont see how anybody can be down with freedom and privacy and not have a
when it comes to china and russia so you are saying only americans deserve freedom and privacy...and now the truth comes out
