NSA Wiretapping and Snowden on the run

[yseJ]

i dont have a problem criticizing the US, i can list a bunch of things that are wrong and hypocritical about us foreign policy, but i wouldnt run to china or russia and talk shyt about the us or be talking about freedom and privacy from a place that has even less freedom and pricacy than the US, i cant respect that

so what part of him running to china/russia being a result of fear for his life, not
willingness to go to a place that is NOT oppressive...

do you not understand ?

hes running to those places because they in generally are powerful enough to oppose the US from extraditing him, NOT because he thinks theyre a nest of freedom

 

[theworldismine13]

so what part of him running to china/russia being a result of fear for his life, not
willingness to go to a place that is NOT oppressive...

do you not understand ?

hes running to those places because they in generally are powerful enough to oppose the US from extraditing him, NOT because he thinks theyre a nest of freedom

what part of him being a spy being as much as good of an explanation of his behavior is it that you dont understand

"im snowden, i fight for freedom and privacy, so im going to go to......china and russia to fight the good fight"

 

[yseJ]

i dont have a problem criticizing the US, i can list a bunch of things that are wrong and hypocritical about us foreign policy, but i wouldnt run to china or russia and talk shyt about the us or be talking about freedom and privacy from a place that has even less freedom and pricacy than the US, i cant respect that

oh ok, so youd be fine criticizing us policy from here even if you were about to get jailed/killed ? am I right ?

or better yet, because other countries also have bad foreign policies, youd just say theyre doing it too, so Im just not gonna talk about injustices

so basically youd rather be a coward and justify it by citing other countries faults instead of looking at your own faults...

 

[yseJ]

what part of him being a spy being as much as good of an explanation of his behavior it that you dont understand

"im snowden, i fight for freedom and privacy, so im going to go to......china and russia to fight the good fight"

the problem with that the never said he fought for freedom and privacy in the world. he said people in the US have the right to know what goes on behind he facet of democracy

he also said " Mainland China does have significant restrictions on free speech" so its not like he said china is just marvelous in terms of freedom.

this is something you still cannot comprehend for some reason. if I want to protest the war in Iraq, doesnt mean Ill protest all or even any other fukking wars, even in the same region. this is the war he cares about.

 

[theworldismine13]

oh ok, so youd be fine criticizing us policy from here even if you were about to get jailed/killed ? am I right ?

or better yet, because other countries also have bad foreign policies, youd just say theyre doing it too, so Im just not gonna talk about injustices

so basically youd rather be a coward and justify it by citing other countries faults instead of looking at your own faults...

everyman can make their own decisions, what i am saying is that him going to russia and china screams out spy and traitor to me and somebody that isnt serious about privacy and individual rights in a humanitarian sense

 

[theworldismine13]

the problem with that the never said he fought for freedom and privacy in the world. he said people in the US have the right to know what goes on behind he facet of democracy

he also said " Mainland China does have significant restrictions on free speech" so its not like he said china is just marvelous in terms of freedom.

this is something you still cannot comprehend for some reason. if I want to protest the war in Iraq, doesnt mean Ill protest all or even any other fukking wars, even in the same region. this is the war he cares about.

yeah he never did say he was fighting for freedom and privacy in the world and that is why i dont respect him and i think he's a spy

i respect assange and bradley, i dont respect this dikkhead

 

[yseJ]

what part of him being a spy being as much as good of an explanation of his behavior it that you dont understand

"im snowden, i fight for freedom and privacy, so im going to go to......china and russia to fight the good fight"

everyman can make their own decisions, what i am saying is that him going to russia and china screams out spy and traitor to me and somebody that isnt serious about privacy and individual rights in a humanitarian sense

why do you have to be a humanitarian fighter for freedom ? forget the martyr aspect.

anyone can expose something. a fukking murderer and a crook can expose a corrupt system. that doesnt make him any less a murderer and a crook but it doesnt make the system any less corrupt either

the fact the government doesnt deny this pretty much is that he uncovered the truth. even if he was a spy like you say, it shouldnt matter much. whether or not guy is a hero, the focus here is on the government lies and 1984-ish environment behind a facade of democracy, not on the person who exposed it anyway

 

[yseJ]

yeah he never did say he was fighting for freedom and privacy in the world and that is why i dont respect him and i think he's a spy

i respect assange and bradley, i dont respect this dikkhead

ok fine, but at least you agree that the shyt he exposed is completely disgusting ?

Im sure world will be fine without you respecting snowden.

 

[theworldismine13]

ok fine, but at least you agree that the shyt he exposed is completely disgusting ?

Im sure world will be fine without you respecting snowden.

no i dont agree its disgusting, i think its legal and should continue unless somebody exposes evidence of the NSA spying without a warrant or outside of standard procedure

 

[yseJ]

no i dont agree its disgusting, i think its legal and should continue unless somebody exposes evidence of the NSA spying without a warrant or outside of standard procedure

you mean, unless somebody that you personally like and deem trustworthy, exposes evidence ?

and btw assange supports snowden

 

[theworldismine13]

you mean, unless somebody that you personally like and deem trustworthy, exposes evidence ?

and btw assange supports snowden

i didnt say i agree with assange or what he is doing, i just meant i can respect the fact he really believes in what he is doing, apparently he thinks that he is a freedom fighter and he has lofty ideals about the world

 

[badvillain]

yeah he never did say he was fighting for freedom and privacy in the world and that is why i dont respect him and i think he's a spy

i respect assange and bradley, i dont respect this dikkhead

Obviously haven't been keeping up. He took an 80 grand pay cut for the sole purpose of exposing the NSA.

The events in the Snowden saga happened on a day when a Hong Kong newspaper revealed that the fugitive told the paper he took his job with a contractor for the National Security Agency for the sole purpose of obtaining evidence on Washington's cyberspying networks.

The South China Morning Post reported Monday that Snowden told it in an interview that he sought a position as an analyst with the consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton so he could collect proof about the NSA's secret surveillance program and make them public.

"My position with Booz Allen Hamilton granted me access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked," he told the Morning Post in a June 12 interview that was published Monday. "That is why I accepted that position about three months ago."

In his interview with the Post, Snowden divulged information that he claimed showed hacking by the NSA into computers in Hong Kong and mainland China.

"I did not release them earlier because I don't want to simply dump huge amounts of documents without regard to their content," he said. "I have to screen everything before releasing it to journalists."

Asked by the Post if he specifically went to Booz Allen Hamilton as a computer systems administrator in Hawaii to gather evidence of surveillance, he replied: "Correct on Booz." Booz Allen spokesman James Fisher declined to comment on the report.

Snowden mystery deepens, took job to gather NSA evidence

I've also heard the conspiracies that Snowden might be working for the government. I never believe anything without substantial proof(whether from conspiracy theorists or the state controlled media). With things like Contra and Operation Northwoods lurking in our past, I wouldn't be the one bit surprised if somehow it was proven that the government staged this.

If that theory was true; it would actually be brillant. They could accurately gauge the publics reaction of this unconstitutional-overreaching-spying program. People like you and the vast majority of Americans have already came forward and say they don't care. They've managed to let people have basic rights taken from them while rounding those same people up to cheerlead the government in trying to catch any enemy of the state that might threaten "national security".

And totally off-topic, there's no such thing as a fukking terrorist, there's right and wrong; moral and immoral; good and evil; just and unjust.

 

[theworldismine13]

Obviously haven't been keeping up. He took an 80 grand pay cut for the sole purpose of exposing the NSA.



Snowden mystery deepens, took job to gather NSA evidence

thats just more evidence that he was a spy and a traitor

 

[badvillain]

thats just more evidence that he was a spy and a traitor

Alright breh breh. I'll let you rock out with your inconsistencies. You seem to be more concerned with the sideshow of his chase then the repercussions that the NSA spying will have on our country. It has been revealed that Snowden was an active user of Ars Technica IRC chatrooms. You can read more about him and his personal beliefs here, read the user comments as well:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...id-leakers-should-be-shot-then-he-became-one/

 

[theworldismine13]

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